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Why don't I want a full suspension mountain bike for road use?

Old 07-12-12, 10:31 AM
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Here's some food for thought !



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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
A little bit of flex in Trek's Iso speed system is a pretty far cry from a full suspension MTB.


It appears that the Domane has 12mm more vertical compliance than a Madone.

http://road.cc/content/news/56064-tr...spension-video
obviously, it is a far cry from a full suspension mountain bike. but, your post was that paris roubaix experimentation has determined that no suspension is best. i presented the domane as a counter-example to that claim. and, with fabu riding it throughout the season, i think it has progressed quite a bit further than any of the one-off, spring-classics-only suspension platforms of the past.
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And because I like stirring the pot. I enjoy riding this bike as much as my roadie's even though it's not as quick in a head wind it's as quick as a road bike everywhere else and I realize it doesn't have suspension.
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Originally Posted by JakiChan View Post
I made that point - using my current hybrid as an example. His response was that those positions don't have your hands on the brakes, which he thinks they should be at all times.

I don't disagree with the folks here - I do want a road bike. I just want to be able to back up my telling him to STFU.

Your friend is lame. Get your road bike, HTFU, drop his lame ass and never look back.
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I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here since it has all been said before but I am unable to contain myself. If you are unsure about what style bike you want, then ask youself what you intend to do with it. Once you figure that out, go down and ride as many differnet bikes as the LBS will let you. Try a FS MTB, a road bike, a hybrid, etc, etc. Decide what you like and will suite you best in your intended use of the bike and go for it. If your friend gives you crap, then just tell him this is what you prefer and be done with it. It is a silly thing to argue about, really. Just ride. That is what we all want to do in the end. Just ride what you like and what works for you.
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Old 07-12-12, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by vwchad View Post
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here since it has all been said before but I am unable to contain myself. If you are unsure about what style bike you want, then ask youself what you intend to do with it.
Yes, he should be clear about what he wants to do with it.

Originally Posted by vwchad View Post
Once you figure that out, go down and ride as many differnet bikes as the LBS will let you. Try a FS MTB, a road bike, a hybrid, etc, etc. Decide what you like and will suite you best in your intended use of the bike and go for it. If your friend gives you crap, then just tell him this is what you prefer and be done with it. It is a silly thing to argue about, really. Just ride. That is what we all want to do in the end. Just ride what you like and what works for you.
There is a problem with this type of advice. If he's a new rider, what he likes at first on a short test ride might not what he likes in the long term.
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Old 07-12-12, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fly:yes/land:no View Post
fwiw, cancellara used a "suspension" bike at the tour of flanders this year, as well as the tour de france.

i bet we see more high end road bikes with lightweight, elastic/carbon flex suspensions.
About 5-6 years ago, Trek stopped selling the Pilot road bike which had elastomer based rear suspension. One of the guys I've ridden with rides one and it looks like it has around half an inch to one inch of travel. Maybe the new Trek Domane isn't as bouncy and sounds like less travel, so the rider loses less energy to pedal bob?
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Old 07-12-12, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jbchybridrider View Post
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Originally Posted by jbchybridrider View Post
This is the exact same face I make when I'm being chased down by the biggest truck I've ever seen.

Also, those handlebars are strange. It's like they don't have "tops!"
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@ OP
I get why your buddy drops all those roadies...
He has a gas/electric motor hooked up to his rig, I've seen so many of these monsters lately.

I still drop these guys...

Why do you see so many/most dudes on FS MTB's walking their bikes, or taking the lift up the mountain?
I guess the TdF need lifts in the 2nd week stages, or motor assisted bikes...
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
Volagi bikes claim to have some sort of cushioning with their design and I might give that a try if I ever have that kind of money to drop on a bike. But yeah, in general, mtb suspension (especially the kind on magna bikes and the like that your friend bought at walmart) is not going to be helpful on a long distance road ride.
I've ridden one, just a short spin around the block and was impressed. It has some give, but still feels stiff. I think they make a great rando or touring bike where being in the saddle for 10hrs a requirement. Disk brakes too, so no worries if you run into a shower.

For those who havent seen it - the seat stays connect to the top tub instead of the seat tube and are designed to flex a little.
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I've ridden one, just a short spin around the block and was impressed. It has some give, but still feels stiff. I think they make a great rando or touring bike where being in the saddle for 10hrs a requirement. Disk brakes too, so no worries if you run into a shower.

For those who havent seen it - the seat stays connect to the top tub instead of the seat tube and are designed to flex a little.
That and they seem to have a bit taller of a headtube than most race bikes. All and all look like a neat concept if you have $3-5k to drop on a bike (which I don't). But yeah, disks and maybe slight ride smoothing and a taller head tube, sounds like something made to ride all day on.
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Old 07-12-12, 07:51 PM
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My boyfriend rides an MTB with road tires. He has a bad back, so the upright position works.

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Originally Posted by JakiChan View Post
He's insisting that a rear suspension would make my butt happier, and that's a worthy tradeoff. The guy does ride a lot - 130+ miles/day on an MTB with road tires and he's passing road bikes all the times. Or so he claims.
If he rides 130 miles or more in a day, he does not have time for a job. I suspect he does not exist, anyway.
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My boyfriend rides an MTB with road tires. He has a bad back, so the upright position works.

Wow, your boyfriend is foxy.
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Wow, your boyfriend is foxy.
This one is better

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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
That and they seem to have a bit taller of a headtube than most race bikes. All and all look like a neat concept if you have $3-5k to drop on a bike (which I don't). But yeah, disks and maybe slight ride smoothing and a taller head tube, sounds like something made to ride all day on.


I've seen one in person. They're quite nice. I didn't get to ride it, though.

Personally, I'd like to see them influence the market a bit and grow that niche. I suspect there are a lot of riders out there that would really appreciate what they are doing but just don't know they have the option yet.
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator View Post
This one is better

Needs flip flops. And less gluteal decolletage.
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Some years back I saw some info on a bike that was made of carbon and Kevlar, I think, and had no seat stays. It had two wavy chainstays, and was made in New Zealand, I think. I haven't seen anything about it in years and I'm beginning to think it was a figment of my imagination. But I thought it was a neat idea, with the chainstays designed to flex to absorb some bumps, while being damped by the fibre. Neat and simple idea that apparently didn't work.
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator View Post
This one is better

OMG, you let him ride your juniors Cervelo? Knee/elbow contact is indicative of proper fit.
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator View Post
This one is better

This can't be good for his bad back!!!


I have a friend who ride CX, but preferred the straight bars/upright position too.
He had a stoke a few years back, so road levers are hard for him to switch gears, & apply the brakes smoothly.
His right hand has strength but he really has no feeling on his right side of his body. It's hard for him to gauge his strength.
He loves his Brodie Romax with Hydro disc brakes! I took it for a spin & the braking power is instant, sort of scary for a light weight bike.
I'm used to having hydros on a MTB with a little more weight behind it.
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You can tell your friend that he shouldn't be riding a full-suspension bike because he looks like a MTB racer wannabe. Hell just ride a tricycle. Road bikes are for road, mountain bikes are for mountain. The difference is huge.
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Originally Posted by GiantDefyGuy View Post

Also, those handlebars are strange. It's like they don't have "tops!"
Criterium bend.
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Op ... I suspect that by now you know that your friend is in fact an idiot, so I won't be telling you that again.

It goes even further, though.
Full suspension mountainbikes, the ones with suspension for the rear wheel, are meant for actual jumping and falling down.
That's the reason these things exist, mainly.
If you're not jumping or falling down from heights, you will never have any actual benefit from the rear suspension.

In all other cases, you can use the suspension of your legs.
Learning how to use your legs as suspension is what you should do.
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