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Fizik Arione saddle alternative

Old 08-07-12, 06:13 PM
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Fizik Arione saddle alternative

I am trying a Fizik Arione saddle from my local bike shop. I like the shape and the feel of the saddle. I would prefer a little more padding. Any ideas of brands/styles that might be what I am looking for?

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Old 08-07-12, 06:15 PM
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Brooks Professional......there is no other.
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I had a Fizik Arione and it didn't agree with me on long rides. Although it's a different shape, I got one of these saddles https://www.competitivecyclist.com/pr...e-9324..0.html and couldn't be happier.
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Old 08-07-12, 08:11 PM
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I also rode the Arione and Alliente, went back to the brooks.
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Old 08-07-12, 10:47 PM
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I believe the Tundra is the mountain bike version of the Arione. It's very similar but with more padding.
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I tried the arione and it was OK for me... the Spec. Toupe is supposed to be similar (but you can get it in different widths) so if you like the arione, try a toupe.

The CX versions of the arione also appear to have more padding than the standard version.
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I have both the standard Arione, & the TT2 version.
I find the TT2 has more padding on the nose so it makes it more comfy for me when I climb seated, or ride the nose in an attempt @ achieving more of an "aero position".
The shape, & the almost seamless design of the Arione work for me as I shift back, & forth/nose to the rear on my saddle.
It works for me because I have narrow sit bones. Finding another saddle that's 130mm is hard IMO.
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Old 08-08-12, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
The CX versions of the arione also appear to have more padding than the standard version.
It's actually the opposite, the CX is the low profile version flatter with less padding. The TT version though does have a more cushy nose to accomodate the more forward facing TT position.
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Old 08-08-12, 01:06 AM
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My bike came with an Arione. I know every butt is different however I couldn't even sit on it for five minutes. I think the shape worked like a pry bar and separated my sit bones when I sat on it. The Arione was really an ass hatchet to me.
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Old 08-08-12, 05:11 AM
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Before you mess with the seat, if padding is the issue, try better shorts.

I rode the Arione for years, since they came out with it. I am now on the Antares. Fits a bit better.
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
Before you mess with the seat, if padding is the issue, try better shorts.

I rode the Arione for years, since they came out with it. I am now on the Antares. Fits a bit better.
Better shorts was my first thought also.

I'm riding the Arione. For me, it's a great saddle. However, for me the fit must be exactly right, or it's not very comfortable.

Have ridden the Antares Versus (and still have it as backup). It's comfortable also, but a little wider than I prefer. And less padded than the Arione, actually.

The main thing in saddle comfort is to get the fit correct first. Saddles are so similar. I sometimes wonder when people have found that "magic saddle" if they've inadvertently changed the fit when changing the saddle. Saddles have different overall heights, lengths, and widths. If you don't compensate for that when changing a saddle, the fit changes.
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Old 08-08-12, 06:57 AM
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Which version of the Arione are you riding? As alpha_brave correctly noted, the base version has more padding that the CX version.

I mistakenly purchased the base version. It was awful. Way too much padding for me. I prefer the CX. That said, the base version works great on my cross bike.
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Old 08-08-12, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MrTuner1970 View Post
Better shorts was my first thought also.

I'm riding the Arione. For me, it's a great saddle. However, for me the fit must be exactly right, or it's not very comfortable.

Have ridden the Antares Versus (and still have it as backup). It's comfortable also, but a little wider than I prefer. And less padded than the Arione, actually.

The main thing in saddle comfort is to get the fit correct first. Saddles are so similar. I sometimes wonder when people have found that "magic saddle" if they've inadvertently changed the fit when changing the saddle. Saddles have different overall heights, lengths, and widths. If you don't compensate for that when changing a saddle, the fit changes.
Easiest thing to do is measure between your sit bones because you obviously want them on the saddle, not outside the saddle...some companies have a 90 day guarantee, too, so if you buy it and don't like it after a few rides you can return it. I happened into the Antares when it came stock on my EVO, and like it a bit better than the Airone but i can ride either. The little bit wider back area is a bit mor comfortable.

I really really do not recommend padded road seats...the kind you can sink your thumb into because the paddin will settle and then you push down on the shell. The real road seats are built to maintain their shape. But at the end of the day its whatever your butt likes. But get measured as that may be a big help.
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Thanks all for the many ideas. I buy good shorts and replace them as needed so I am focused on the saddle. I tried the fizik arione because the padded mt. Bike seat was causing chafing as I increased mileage past 60. I never had my sit bones measured so that is probably a good start although the local bike shop says that is useless data. At 6'2" and 205 and 58 I am not your typical shape for a cyclist.

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Originally Posted by himebaum View Post
Thanks all for the many ideas. I buy good shorts and replace them as needed so I am focused on the saddle. I tried the fizik arione because the padded mt. Bike seat was causing chafing as I increased mileage past 60. I never had my sit bones measured so that is probably a good start although the local bike shop says that is useless data. At 6'2" and 205 and 58 I am not your typical shape for a cyclist.

Jim
Its not useless...that why we have three measuring pads from three differnet saddle manufacturers.

If the seat is too narrow, it will be painful. Thats why they make saddles with different widths. Its like telling you that your body dimensions are useless in determining frame size.

Good luck...but id look for seats with comfort guarantees.

Im almost exactly the same size and age as you.
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One of the things I think is genius about the Arione is the differential width. The further back you go on the saddle the wider it is. At first I would ride with my butt all the way back and I couldn't stand it. However, with some experimentation, I found that it's a wonderful saddle for me once I move up and sit more towards the nose. Obviously saddles are different for different folks, but experiment a bit with moving back and for on the saddle and see if you don't find that sweet spot.
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I should have mentioned I rode a bontrager evoke rl which was chafing me as I increased mileage.
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
Its not useless...
No, but not inviolable either. With my sitbones 115mm apart, Specialized recommends a 143mm saddle. But I find I like the 130mm Arione better than any of the three 143mm saddles I've used. Just more comfortable.

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One of the things I think is genius about the Arione is the differential width. The further back you go on the saddle the wider it is. At first I would ride with my butt all the way back and I couldn't stand it. However, with some experimentation, I found that it's a wonderful saddle for me once I move up and sit more towards the nose. Obviously saddles are different for different folks, but experiment a bit with moving back and for on the saddle and see if you don't find that sweet spot.
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Originally Posted by MrTuner1970 View Post
No, but not inviolable either. With my sitbones 115mm apart, Specialized recommends a 143mm saddle. But I find I like the 130mm Arione better than any of the three 143mm saddles I've used. Just more comfortable.



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Specialized is wrong....now there's a first, eh?
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In my case Specialized was right on. Seems I am pretty happy with just about any 143 mm saddle I choose.
I too had an Arione but could never get real comfy. Switched to an Antares and I am very happy now. The Antares is also flat but it's wider and has a bit more padding.
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I have the Alainte on my Kona JTS/CX & it fits nice too. Its a bit wider in the end, but the overall saddle is nice & smooth so transitions feel great.
I almost took a chance on the Spesh Romin Pro cause I wanted to try a saddle with the cutout, the Arione works for me so I didn't bother.
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if you liked arione, maybe kurve snake.
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Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
Specialized is wrong....now there's a first, eh?
I think they're both right.

Sit bone width is important as a starting point, but there are other factors like your position and pelvis angle when you are sitting on the bike that are equally important. An upright rider will need a different saddle than a rider with an almost horizontal back that spends a lot of time in the drops even if their sitbones are the same width.
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I think they're both right.

Sit bone width is important as a starting point, but there are other factors like your position and pelvis angle when you are sitting on the bike that are equally important. An upright rider will need a different saddle than a rider with an almost horizontal back that spends a lot of time in the drops even if their sitbones are the same width.
+1, & flexibility too.
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