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Odd, Bouncy in the Drops?

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Old 08-15-12, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Sorry. That's the problem with asynchronous communication. And an occasional disgruntlement over some of the silliness on this board, and in real life.

My apologies.

Consider your saddle height, and the fact that the significant aft move you made does equal raising your saddle about 7mm...a fairly significant height change.
whoops - case in point.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
A further issue relates to how one rides in the drops. I would say that many better cyclists when trasistioning to the drops open their hip angle by riding the rivet aka scooting to the front of the saddle. This effectively lowers saddle height and opens the hip angle compensating for the addtional stretch to the drops.
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Actually I do the opposite. I scoot back on the seat when I go into the drops. There is no reasoning for it, its just what I do. So effectivly by going to the drops and scooting back I am making my leg extension longer which would cause the bounce?
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Originally Posted by Banzai
Sorry. That's the problem with asynchronous communication. And an occasional disgruntlement over some of the silliness on this board, and in real life.

My apologies.

Consider your saddle height, and the fact that the significant aft move you made does equal raising your saddle about 7mm...a fairly significant height change.

No worries

I didnt get to test the lower seat height this morning we have thunderstorms rolling through. Sadly the test will have to wait till saturday.

I'm think for a birthday gift i will ask the wife for a bike fitting.
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Originally Posted by CJ C
Actually I do the opposite. I scoot back on the seat when I go into the drops. There is no reasoning for it, its just what I do. So effectivly by going to the drops and scooting back I am making my leg extension longer which would cause the bounce?
Yes. Also for harder efforts in the drops, you naturally unweight the saddle making the nose of the saddle less bothersome.
Scooting back in the saddle while in the drops further closes your hip angle and restricts your pedal stroke and lengthens the distance from top (rear) of saddles to the pedals. This will cause you to bounce...especially if your saddle is a bit high to begin with.
What I see is what I consider poor technique based upon saddle height. Saddle too high promotes toe pointing at the bottom of the stroke to compensate. Your saddle shouldn't be this high. I have a natural indicator when my saddle is too high. Too much leg extension for me = discomfort in back of leg at the knee which is common.
PS: I just completed my std. 30 mile ride. For the last 3-4 miles I wanted to hold 25 mph. I did this in the drops approx. 1 inch forward in the saddle...with not much weight on my bum because it was going into the pedals.

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Originally Posted by Campag4life
What I see is what I consider poor technique based upon saddle height. Saddle too high promotes toe pointing at the bottom of the stroke to compensate. Your saddle shouldn't be this high. I have a natural indicator when my saddle is too high. Too much leg extension for me = discomfort in back of leg at the knee which is common.
I dont know why I point my toes, could be the seat is high. I do this on my 80's steel and do this on my beach cruiser (which the seat is always too low on). I really need to check but I think my toes are pointed down for the whole rotation.

as noted I will try a lower saddle on my next ride i think 2mm would be good? or should I do 4mm?



BTW: Don't know if its relevant but I have insanely short legs. 5'9" and 28.5 cycling inseam
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so i have lowered my saddle and still bouncy in the drops. i will try to lower it 2mm more to se if it helps
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Originally Posted by CJ C
the weird thing that perplexes me is why I can be perfectly smooth while riding the hoods or tops at 120rpm but when in the drops its a whole different ball game?

Do you think that when I go into the drops I might exaggerate the rotation of my hips?
Up your stack or use a shallow drop handlebar.
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Originally Posted by CJ C
I can spin up to 115-120rpm while on the hoods or tops just fine. but anything over 105 rpms (sometimes 100rpm) in the drops I get all bouncy sally. I thought maybe I need a bit more practice at higher rpms in the drops, so I did just that. I still get bouncy?

Now its not really a problem as I dont ride at that rpms for the whole ride, its just more of an annoyance.

Am I doing something wrong? Or do I need to just not think about it, and it will go away?
Good question...I feel the same..
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