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Old 08-16-12, 07:07 AM
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Boyd 38 Clinchers

Looking to upgrade my wheels and it's very confusing. I keep hearing that Boyd wheels are a great value and very durable.

Here's some background:
I've been riding for about 10 months and 1400 miles. Bike is a Trek Madone 4.6 w/Rival. Average ride is 30-40 miles on Long Island so mostly flat with rolling hills.

So I was thinking Boyd 38 Clinchers would be durable for my use and a nice upgrade over the original Bontrager Race wheels that came with the bike. Also they won't break the bank.

Opinions? Other options?
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If they're anything like the 38mm tubulars, they'll be great. I've put a couple thousand miles over the last few months on the tubulars, both riding and racing, with zero issues.
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I'd like to add this:
[h=4]*Weight limit - 195 pounds 20/24 - 225 pounds 24/28
*Spoke count recommendation - under 180 pounds 20/24 - 180 pounds and over 24/28[/h]
I'm 195lbs so 20/24 or 24/28?
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I'm 185lbs and have the 24/28 set of 50mm clinchers. Just figured I'd be safe & leave room for "growth". I like them a lot, and came from the same crappy Bontragers that you did.
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Unless you are racing for big $$$ go with the extra spokes.

Another thought, if you are keeping the Bontrager wheels for backups why not go with a 50mm rim. If windy days are a problem you can use the back ups.
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I'm 185lbs and have the 24/28 set of 50mm clinchers. Just figured I'd be safe & leave room for "growth". I like them a lot, and came from the same crappy Bontragers that you did.
Thanks for the feedback... I guess the 24/28 sure make sense.


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Unless you are racing for big $$$ go with the extra spokes.

Another thought, if you are keeping the Bontrager wheels for backups why not go with a 50mm rim. If windy days are a problem you can use the back ups.
I am keeping them but figured I wouldn't want to change wheels if it's windy. I thought to keep the Bontrager for winter riding.

I didn't think about the 50s. I just figure they are heavier and more than what i need.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
I'd like to add this:

I'm 195lbs so 20/24 or 24/28?
Well I was 175 when I bought mine and Boyd recommended 24/28. Adds a few grams. I'm now 158 and doubt less spokes would make any difference.
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Extra spoke benefits will outweigh the lower spoke benefits. Especially at your weight. I would be lloking at the 50 or 58 for your riding style.
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Extra spoke benefits will outweigh the lower spoke benefits. Especially at your weight. I would be lloking at the 50 or 58 for your riding style.
What are the advantages/disadvantages of 38 vs 50 vs 58?
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Another thought, if you are keeping the Bontrager wheels for backups why not go with a 50mm rim. If windy days are a problem you can use the back ups.
Doesn't the Boyd wheels require special brake pads? If so, doesn't that mean i'd have to change the brake pads when I switch wheels?
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Doesn't the Boyd wheels require special brake pads? If so, doesn't that mean i'd have to change the brake pads when I switch wheels?
Any carbon wheel requires different brake pads. The Boyd wheels come with new pads and replacement takes 5 minutes tops.
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of 38 vs 50 vs 58?
The theory goes that the deeper the rim the more aerodynamic it gets. It also gets arguably stronger. You also may get more of a 'whoosh-whoosh' as you ride.

The disadvantages would be added weight and catching cross winds.
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Any carbon wheel requires different brake pads. The Boyd wheels come with new pads and replacement takes 5 minutes tops.
True, but I rather not switch them depending on the wind. I would like to put on the alloy wheels say November to March.

Would I be better off with 38s or would the 50s not be that bad from most rides? Would the 58s be a problem in the wind?
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I rode my 50's today with a 30-50kph gusting crosswind. It sucked and pushed me around a lot but it was fine. I don't switch my wheels because of wind. If I planned a longer ride (today was just 24km) I would choose a route that was into & with the wind rather than a crosswind.

Switching brake pads Nov/Mar would not take much effort. If it does look for aluminum brake tracks.
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Most of my rides are not across large open fields. But i do ride to Jones beach which is 10 miles exposed to the ocean and wind.
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Be aware that the braking capability of these wheels is NOT as good compared to your aluminum wheels.

They are fine wheels, and I use a similar pair (actually Williams 38) which I love, but braking surely is not as good.

I use the carbon clinchers May through October and aluminum ones in the off-season, swapping out the brake pads is easy and takes just a few minutes.
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Be aware that the braking capability of these wheels is NOT as good compared to your aluminum wheels.
I've heard that and it is a concern.

Spoke to my son and he said i'd be better off with a lighter and better set of aluminum wheels. He warned me about carbon wheel brakes and only uses his when he races. So 99% of the time, he's on aluminum.

He has Bontrager RXL wheels on his Madone 6.7. And since he's going overseas for 10 months the wheels will be just sitting there. He suggests i try them see if I can feel a difference.
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of 38 vs 50 vs 58?

You get a much better aero benefit with wheels over 50mm+ especially with non toroidal wheels. With newer toroidal wheels you can get some great aero benefits at shallower depths (Enve Smart 3.4, Zipp 303). The deeper wheel will be stiffer and the weight gain will not be noticable. A lot of riders notice deep wheels in the wind but you are not a 140lbs rider. I ride 50mm daily at 205lbs and ride along the ocean with 30+mph gusts. You can feel them in the wind but you get use to it after one ride.


Basically go deep carbon or I would chose the Boyd Vitesse 24/28 as it's a nice semi-aero shape and 23mm wide rim. Will ride awesome as you can run lower tire psi and you retain aluminum braking surface for when the weather is bad.

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Not trying to hijack your thread, but I have Bontrager race wheels also, and am interested in the Boyd Vitesse wheels. Would there be a noticeable difference between the two?
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Just get some vitesse, fantastic wheelset
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