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Pinarello SP2 vs Specialized Roubaix

Old 08-21-12, 05:27 AM
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Pinarello FP2 vs Specialized Roubaix

Hi All,

It's time for me to upgrade my Specialized Allez to a carbon bike!

I check my LBS and I can get a Pinarello FP2 with Rival for around $2,200, a Specialized Roubaix SL2 Elite with APEX for $2,200 or Specialized Roubaix Comp with 105 for $2,695

My main concern is the comfort, I plan to do several multi-day events and I want to finish as fresh as possible!

For the components, as long they don't use Tiagra (with it's a pain) I am OK, but if you think APEX, RIVAL is bad, please let me know.

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Originally Posted by Menel
Fit.
If you are talking about testing them, I wasn't able to try them for several miles...
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Not enough info. Post both geometry charts and your fit objectives...what kind of fit do you like?...tall versus short head tube?
Can you touch your toes locked kneed? Palm the ground?
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What kind of "multi-day" events are you talking about?

And why can't you use the Allez for them?

What are your normal rides like?
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apex and rival are both good group sets, for what its worth. 105 is great stuff also, get the one you feel most comfy with. you won't go wrong with any of them, even new 10spd tiagra is quite nice and should be serviceable for a long time, probably longer that you'll own the bike.
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Just based on price, I'd buy the Pinarello with Rival.
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Originally Posted by josefebus
If you are talking about testing them, I wasn't able to try them for several miles...
Any bike shop that doesn't let me test a bike for at least an hour doesn't get my business. You can read all the charts and brochures you want and get all kinds of advice but the true test is the ride. Have you ridden with Apex or Rival? They are fine but different than 105. Some people like Shimano and others Shram. What you're comfortable with is more important than what I or others like.

That said, I ride a Specialized Roubaix Expert and love it. (Same geometry as the Specialized bikes you're looking at.)
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Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe
What kind of "multi-day" events are you talking about?

And why can't you use the Allez for them?

What are your normal rides like?
The first multi-day is a 300 miles in 3 days, the second one is 375 miles in 3 days...

I can use the Allez, but AFAIK carbon will be more comfortable...that why I am planning to get a new bike...
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I think the point is that the bike that fits you best will be most comfortable on rides of any length and nobody here can tell you what fits you. You need to ride them. there's probably very little FIT difference between the two Roubaix models and the component groups won't really affect your fit at all (aside from the size of the shifter) so go test ride the bikes.
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Originally Posted by josefebus
The first multi-day is a 300 miles in 3 days, the second one is 375 miles in 3 days...

I can use the Allez, but AFAIK carbon will be more comfortable...that why I am planning to get a new bike...
But we need to know more about you. Can you do a hand stand and spring up into a tree from this position?
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Thanks for the info... setting the FIT aside, which one offers the best vibration absorption? I found roubaix vs cannondale lab tests, but none including the Pinarello...
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
Not enough info. Post both geometry charts and your fit objectives...what kind of fit do you like?...tall versus short head tube?
Can you touch your toes locked kneed? Palm the ground?
I prefer the tall head tube... and I am not really flexible! I can touch my toes, but can't palm the ground!
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I like pinarello, but i have no idea what an SP2 is
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Originally Posted by josefebus
I prefer the tall head tube... and I am not really flexible! I can touch my toes, but can't palm the ground!
Pretty much a no brainer in my opinion. Roubaix. I own a SL3. If you don't consider yourself flexible then a racing geometry bike will generally not be comfortable for centuries. Roubaix are for guys with average or worse flexibility who generally don't race and like to ride long distances. I ride with a lot of fast guys and some of the fastest are on Roubaixs. The engine determines speed.
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Originally Posted by Elduderino2412
I like pinarello, but i have no idea what an SP2 is
This is the Pinarello SP2 : https://www.pinarello.it/eng/fp2_529.php

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Originally Posted by Campag4life
Pretty much a no brainer in my opinion. Roubaix. I own a SL3. If you don't consider yourself flexible then a racing geometry bike will generally not be comfortable for centuries. Roubaix are for guys with average or worse flexibility who generally don't race and like to ride long distances. I ride with a lot of fast guys and some of the fastest are on Roubaixs. The engine determines speed.
Thanks for the info and your help!

I noticed the $2,200 Roubaix at my LBS is SL2, I have to check the other one... Is there a big different between the SL2 and SL3?
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Originally Posted by josefebus
Thanks for the info and your help!

I noticed the $2,200 Roubaix at my LBS is SL2, I have to check the other one... Is there a big different between the SL2 and SL3?

My honest opinion is the Roubaix SL2 is just fine for the vast majority of riders and I would have been fine with it. It may in fact be more comfortable than either the SL3 Pro that I own or the Sworks Roubaix which is about $3K for the frameset alone and considered their flagship bike. For centuries the SL2 maybe the best in fact if ride comfort is the objective. The SL3 is s stiff bike but the angles of the bike add a measure of forgiveness to the ride...longer wheelbase and relaxed front fork and rear triangle. Fit trumps frame stiffness really for pain free miles and this is where the Roubaix shines and why the bike is so popular because it doesn't bend you over like several race bikes do. There is also a parallel universe with fit that many don't understand. A long legged rider per height will fit the same on a Roubaix as a short legged rider will fit on a short head tube race bike. So head tube length relative to top tube ratio isn't just about flexbiiity but also about how you are proportioned. For example I am both of average to sub par flexibility and long legged so a Roubaix is a blessing to me...best geometry I have ridden...again for me. If I were 6' with 32" and not 35" inseam, I may choose a Tarmac for example..because a tall head tube would be less necessary for the position I seek. Parallel universe.
Pinnies have a storied pedigree in bike racing but to me Specialized has probably the best carbon fiber tech in the world...Look, Trek and Giant get honorable mention...and Cervelo.
No losers in the bikes you are considering as all name brand bikes obtained a name brand for a reason...they are all great bikes. A given model of bike however maybe discernibly better for you however.

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I have an SL2 Roubaix Elite Rival, and just completed my first Metric Century- my longest ride to date. I also did my first standard Half-Century last month. I'm surprised at how "un-sore" I was after either/both of them. While I can't compare it against other road bikes, or how you'll feel after 3 consecutive 100 mile days, I can tell you that a fit 43-yr old w/ a bad back can do a pain-free Metric Century on an SL2 Roubaix.
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Originally Posted by josefebus
The first multi-day is a 300 miles in 3 days, the second one is 375 miles in 3 days.. I can use the Allez, but AFAIK carbon will be more comfortable...that why I am planning to get a new bike...
A few thoughts.

The first is that you're going to do a lot of training, which gives you lots of opportunities to try different things. So I'd start, just for giggles, with softening up the Allez and see how that goes. E.g. 25c tires, lower psi, bar gels, maybe try a seatpost with travel (e.g. Thudbuster). That will get you at least half-way to the ride feel of an endurance bike.

If that doesn't work, you'll have to do some test rides and see how it goes.
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Today I bought the Pinarello FP2... The LBS included the fitting...

I rode the Pinarello home, around 1 mile, and it's really comfortable and it absorbs the road vibration really nice...

Thanks all of you for the help...
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