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Cervelo S5 or R5?

Old 08-24-12, 09:44 PM
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Cervelo S5 or R5?

If you had to choose between the Cervelo S5 Team Ultegra Di2 or the R5 VWD Red, which would you choose?
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R5 because the S5 is butt ugly
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+1 on the R5 but really the bikes are totally different so it depends on your needs. I would personally prefer the R5.
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R5 is one of the bikes I'm lusting over right now!
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R5 - It is on my short list as well.
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I have to admit, I lean toward the R5 myself but I thought the S5 would get a little more love than this. Any Di2 fanatics want to chime in?
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R5 over S5

S2 over S5
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R5 over S5

S2 over S5
What this dude said.
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Neither.
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have any of you tried an S5??

hands down one of the best (if not the best) bikes i've owned.

unless you're a mountain goat, S5 is the bike to choose.

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R5 for me. I went over this dilemma myself recently. I have a Cervelo SLC-SL but wanted something newer. I don't like the looks of the taller head tube on the S5 and am upset for Cervelo's decision to change the geometry to make it more comfortable. Their response of using -17 degree stems is poor. Its an aero bike supposed to concentrate on speed - if riders don't like the feel they can use a + stem (even flipped). Instead they change the geometry where it looks hideous in a 58 or larger size and say use a stem only two companies make
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Originally Posted by kahoon View Post
have any of you tried an S5??

hands down one of the best (if not the best) bikes i've owned.

unless you're a mountain goat, S5 is the bike to choose.
I had a R3SL and just got a S5 VWD. The S5 rides harder but is a much faster bike. At 17.8 pounds with pedals and wheels it is no the lightest but lighter than my old R3SL.
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I had a R3SL and just got a S5 VWD. The S5 rides harder but is a much faster bike. At 17.8 pounds with pedals and wheels it is no the lightest but lighter than my old R3SL.
I'd hate to see what was hanging off that poor R3SL to pork it up past 18lbs!
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R5 weighs 820g, S5 weighs 990g, S2 weighs ~1100g. that's 0.61lb difference between the R5 and the S2. that's less than half of a 20oz. water bottle, or 0.339% of the total weight of a 165lb rider with a 15lb bike. the aero savings on the S2/S5 is probably more significant even on climbs. and I don't care much for the look of the S5. I would get the S2 and use the cash on wheels and other things.
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Originally Posted by jtwilson View Post
I'd hate to see what was hanging off that poor R3SL to pork it up past 18lbs!
The componets and wheels are the same the R3SL did have a seat wedge with two co2's and a tube.
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I have a 54 and it looks just fine, I hope everyone gets a good look at the back as I pass them.
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Originally Posted by sharp View Post
R5 is one of the bikes I'm lusting over right now!
+1
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I test rode S2, S5, R3.

I bought the S2.

I recently rode an R5. Unfortunately it was a size 51 and I ride a 58. I only rode it for a half a mile.
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Originally Posted by remixity View Post
R5 weighs 820g, S5 weighs 990g, S2 weighs ~1100g. that's 0.61lb difference between the R5 and the S2. that's less than half of a 20oz. water bottle, or 0.339% of the total weight of a 165lb rider with a 15lb bike. the aero savings on the S2/S5 is probably more significant even on climbs. and I don't care much for the look of the S5. I would get the S2 and use the cash on wheels and other things.
Cervelo's tech presentation portion of their website (see areo vs. weight) talks about the "tipping point" between aero benefit vs weight benefit at roughly 8% grade for a good pro and 5% for an average rider. So for the 41 it's gotta be around 10% right? We should all be riding the S5.
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I have a 54 and it looks just fine, I hope everyone gets a good look at the back as I pass them.
I know the S5's looks have been debated to no end but I like the way the S5 looks.
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Originally Posted by uncrx2003 View Post
R5 because the S5 is butt ugly
Couldn't have said it better myself
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Went for a group ride today and the aero advantage was huge. The funny thing was on way the back with tail winds I walk away from everyone. All I know is that this bike is much faster than a R3SL and the R5 is basically the same bike as a R3SL.
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The componets and wheels are the same the R3SL did have a seat wedge with two co2's and a tube.
One of the few people that are honest and realistic with weights. I'm so skeptical about weights here - either people lie or weigh their bikes without pedals, bar tape, cages, etc.
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R5 sounds cooler.
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S5 all the way.

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