We need bike lanes in my city, I want your thoughts
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We need bike lanes in my city, I want your thoughts
asking that the mods leave this in the 41 for a bit because I specifically want an answer from them then I will go to the safety forum later as well.
I've been pushing our mayor to push for bike lanes* in our city, we currently have zero. She seems to think that we as a community believe we are safer without them. I understand that there are pros and cons but i think the pros far out weigh any of the cons. The awareness it brings to drivers that cyclists belong on the road, the extra room and its amazing how much that white line helps protect us on some of the busier roads.
We have quite the cycling community and more and more people are starting to commute or consider it, the problem is, its quite dangerous. We are in the south (columbus, ga) and full of rednecks who don't understand we pay taxes and have rights to the road as well.
thoughts?
Do you prefer riding on roads without bike lanes* or with??? (I'm not talking about deep downtown where there are tons of parked cars...
I've been pushing our mayor to push for bike lanes* in our city, we currently have zero. She seems to think that we as a community believe we are safer without them. I understand that there are pros and cons but i think the pros far out weigh any of the cons. The awareness it brings to drivers that cyclists belong on the road, the extra room and its amazing how much that white line helps protect us on some of the busier roads.
We have quite the cycling community and more and more people are starting to commute or consider it, the problem is, its quite dangerous. We are in the south (columbus, ga) and full of rednecks who don't understand we pay taxes and have rights to the road as well.
thoughts?
Do you prefer riding on roads without bike lanes* or with??? (I'm not talking about deep downtown where there are tons of parked cars...
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I hear cyling in the south is a rough time. Someone in the commuter forum had a thread about getting assaulted in a dispute with a southern motorist.
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It sounds like you want bike lanes not paths. We have bike lanes as well as sharrows where we have to share a lane with cars due to parallel parking. I prefer a proper bike lane when they are done correctly. I can deal with either situation but generally feel safer in a bike lane.
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Not a fan of bike lanes. It is not a legal requirement for cyclists to use them although motorists seem to think so. Typically, they're not cleaned of winter debris until June. They collect glass and other pokey bits. I would rather have a one metre (3 foot) rule promoted and enforced, and paved rural road shoulders.
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I live in Memphis, the city recently started catering to the cycling community a bit more by adding bike lanes. So far they appear to be the most dangerous parts of my rides, so much that I avoid areas with bike lanes. Cagers around here see bike lanes like sidewalks but in the street. They don't pay any attention to what's going on in the bike lanes. They'll turn in front of you, merge on you while preparing to turn, ect..... I'll take my chances in the street. They may be angry that they have to share the road but at least they see me!
Perhaps this will all change as drivers get used to the new bike lanes. For now I avoid them!
Perhaps this will all change as drivers get used to the new bike lanes. For now I avoid them!
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Don't have enough experience with them to have a firm opinion.
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Where I ride there are hundreds of miles of bike lanes and bike paths. I much prefer riding in a bike lane than without one. I don't like rubbing elbows with cads. Being in a bike lane tells car drivers that the cyclist has a right to be there.
I feel much safer in a bike lane.
I feel much safer in a bike lane.
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asking that the mods leave this in the 41 for a bit because I specifically want an answer from them then I will go to the safety forum later as well.
I've been pushing our mayor to push for bike lanes* in our city, we currently have zero. She seems to think that we as a community believe we are safer without them. I understand that there are pros and cons but i think the pros far out weigh any of the cons. The awareness it brings to drivers that cyclists belong on the road, the extra room and its amazing how much that white line helps protect us on some of the busier roads.
We have quite the cycling community and more and more people are starting to commute or consider it, the problem is, its quite dangerous. We are in the south (columbus, ga) and full of rednecks who don't understand we pay taxes and have rights to the road as well.
thoughts?
Do you prefer riding on roads without bike lanes* or with??? (I'm not talking about deep downtown where there are tons of parked cars...
I've been pushing our mayor to push for bike lanes* in our city, we currently have zero. She seems to think that we as a community believe we are safer without them. I understand that there are pros and cons but i think the pros far out weigh any of the cons. The awareness it brings to drivers that cyclists belong on the road, the extra room and its amazing how much that white line helps protect us on some of the busier roads.
We have quite the cycling community and more and more people are starting to commute or consider it, the problem is, its quite dangerous. We are in the south (columbus, ga) and full of rednecks who don't understand we pay taxes and have rights to the road as well.
thoughts?
Do you prefer riding on roads without bike lanes* or with??? (I'm not talking about deep downtown where there are tons of parked cars...
Also I find it funny how the government pushes for kids, and people in general to get active, and stay active, yet bike lanes that would make the decision for biking/commuting easier and obviously therefore get people active, they won't allow??? That's idiotic, and the opposite of what they should be pushing towards.
As for me, bike lanes would be helpful when riding on the highway when I need to/riding on any busy streets when I need to, but my city has pretty good drivers that try their best to give me space But when I'm not near the busier streets of the city, it's not so bad because there's not so many cars and it helps a lot for riding in a straight line which will help me in my first race and group rides for not causing stupid crashes.
Not a fan of bike lanes. It is not a legal requirement for cyclists to use them although motorists seem to think so. Typically, they're not cleaned of winter debris until June. They collect glass and other pokey bits. I would rather have a one metre (3 foot) rule promoted and enforced, and paved rural road shoulders.
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I don't like bike lanes, it places you in the debris/door zone. With cars driving slow and drafting, riding on 25mph roads in town is no problem.
A better option is a bike path through town or riding through residential streets
A better option is a bike path through town or riding through residential streets
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Paved shoulders are fine by me also, doesn't matter if they paint little bike logos in 'em.
Go very far out of town here and you'll end up on a road with narrow 10' wide lanes, 4" shoulder and locals taking all the blind curves @ 55 mph. It ain't no fun out that way.
Go very far out of town here and you'll end up on a road with narrow 10' wide lanes, 4" shoulder and locals taking all the blind curves @ 55 mph. It ain't no fun out that way.
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Even really wide lanes suit me. Check out the slow lanes on this road. They're so damn wide I usually ride in the slow lane with cars even though there's a marked bike lane.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.674376,-122.662835&spn=0.000402,0.000597&t=h&z=21
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.674376,-122.662835&spn=0.000402,0.000597&t=h&z=21
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Paved shoulders are fine by me also, doesn't matter if they paint little bike logos in 'em.
Go very far out of town here and you'll end up on a road with narrow 10' wide lanes, 4" shoulder and locals taking all the blind curves @ 55 mph. It ain't no fun out that way.
Go very far out of town here and you'll end up on a road with narrow 10' wide lanes, 4" shoulder and locals taking all the blind curves @ 55 mph. It ain't no fun out that way.
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I'd rather have wider regular lanes than a dedicated bike lane.
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"Do you prefer riding on roads without bike lanes* or with???"
Without bike lanes. Having bike lanes on some roads just conditions cagers to be more dangerous to riders when there are no bike lanes. Also, bike lanes become the de facto shoulders, replete with all the debris and broken glass.
Without bike lanes. Having bike lanes on some roads just conditions cagers to be more dangerous to riders when there are no bike lanes. Also, bike lanes become the de facto shoulders, replete with all the debris and broken glass.
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I like bike lanes but I don't like how sporadic they are - near me, I'll be riding along... bike lane, bike lane, bike lane, then no bike lane. What? Any time there's a traffic calming measure (little island in the middle, or those things that stick out from the curb) the bike lane is the thing that gets sacrificed.
My preference is to have roads with a wide enough right lane that I can ride there. All this effort to promote bike lanes is great, but what about the roads with no bike lanes? Are we not allowed to ride there as well? What do drivers think when they see cyclists in a bike lane and then see cyclists NOT in a bike lane?
I used to be solidly in the "bike lane" camp but I think now I'd prefer none, just plenty of room. I'd even go so far as to support bike licenses that we can hang under the seat so we can tell motorists to STFU, we paid for our right to be on the road. That would be worth $25 a year to me.
My preference is to have roads with a wide enough right lane that I can ride there. All this effort to promote bike lanes is great, but what about the roads with no bike lanes? Are we not allowed to ride there as well? What do drivers think when they see cyclists in a bike lane and then see cyclists NOT in a bike lane?
I used to be solidly in the "bike lane" camp but I think now I'd prefer none, just plenty of room. I'd even go so far as to support bike licenses that we can hang under the seat so we can tell motorists to STFU, we paid for our right to be on the road. That would be worth $25 a year to me.
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Paved shoulders are fine by me also, doesn't matter if they paint little bike logos in 'em.
Go very far out of town here and you'll end up on a road with narrow 10' wide lanes, 4" shoulder and locals taking all the blind curves @ 55 mph. It ain't no fun out that way.
Go very far out of town here and you'll end up on a road with narrow 10' wide lanes, 4" shoulder and locals taking all the blind curves @ 55 mph. It ain't no fun out that way.
Not a fan of bike lanes. It is not a legal requirement for cyclists to use them although motorists seem to think so. Typically, they're not cleaned of winter debris until June. They collect glass and other pokey bits. I would rather have a one metre (3 foot) rule promoted and enforced, and paved rural road shoulders.
I live in Memphis, the city recently started catering to the cycling community a bit more by adding bike lanes. So far they appear to be the most dangerous parts of my rides, so much that I avoid areas with bike lanes. Cagers around here see bike lanes like sidewalks but in the street. They don't pay any attention to what's going on in the bike lanes. They'll turn in front of you, merge on you while preparing to turn, ect..... I'll take my chances in the street. They may be angry that they have to share the road but at least they see me!
Perhaps this will all change as drivers get used to the new bike lanes. For now I avoid them!
Perhaps this will all change as drivers get used to the new bike lanes. For now I avoid them!
Even really wide lanes suit me. Check out the slow lanes on this road. They're so damn wide I usually ride in the slow lane with cars even though there's a marked bike lane.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.674376,-122.662835&spn=0.000402,0.000597&t=h&z=21
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.674376,-122.662835&spn=0.000402,0.000597&t=h&z=21
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"Do you prefer riding on roads without bike lanes* or with???"
Without bike lanes. Having bike lanes on some roads just conditions cagers to be more dangerous to riders when there are no bike lanes. Also, bike lanes become the de facto shoulders, replete with all the debris and broken glass.
Without bike lanes. Having bike lanes on some roads just conditions cagers to be more dangerous to riders when there are no bike lanes. Also, bike lanes become the de facto shoulders, replete with all the debris and broken glass.
and i understand not all roads are suitable for bike lanes, but clearly there are some that are ideal and should have them and make commuting a safer option
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I like bike lanes but I don't like how sporadic they are - near me, I'll be riding along... bike lane, bike lane, bike lane, then no bike lane. What? Any time there's a traffic calming measure (little island in the middle, or those things that stick out from the curb) the bike lane is the thing that gets sacrificed.
My preference is to have roads with a wide enough right lane that I can ride there. All this effort to promote bike lanes is great, but what about the roads with no bike lanes? Are we not allowed to ride there as well? What do drivers think when they see cyclists in a bike lane and then see cyclists NOT in a bike lane?
I used to be solidly in the "bike lane" camp but I think now I'd prefer none, just plenty of room. I'd even go so far as to support bike licenses that we can hang under the seat so we can tell motorists to STFU, we paid for our right to be on the road. That would be worth $25 a year to me.
My preference is to have roads with a wide enough right lane that I can ride there. All this effort to promote bike lanes is great, but what about the roads with no bike lanes? Are we not allowed to ride there as well? What do drivers think when they see cyclists in a bike lane and then see cyclists NOT in a bike lane?
I used to be solidly in the "bike lane" camp but I think now I'd prefer none, just plenty of room. I'd even go so far as to support bike licenses that we can hang under the seat so we can tell motorists to STFU, we paid for our right to be on the road. That would be worth $25 a year to me.