Hills?
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That's what they all are. KOMs are for entertainment purposes only. My KOMs (if I still have any) are all on my commute. Eventually, one day, the wind will be in your favor if you ride that segment every day.
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Ha, that's where I was going this weekend when I figured out how bad I an on the hills.
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Conversely, bringing along extra weight is great training.
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I still like to see what times I put down without wind during different points of my training cycle. However, one doesn't need strava for that. Just a bit convenient I suppose.
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yes, you can also go to a segment and click on the left to see all of your results on that segment (and only yours). Strava makes it easy to track a lot of stuff with that feature.
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No hills, no problem. Computrainer.
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Eh. You only produce the power you produce. Extra weight up a hill just means you go slower.
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Find a climb you can do in 10-20 minutes and do hill intervals up it at maximum constant pace. 2-4 intervals, two or three times a week and you'll be flying. Time yourself between two landmarks on that hill and use those times as benchmarks to get faster. Your power/weight ratio is directly proportional to your climbing speed.
Mashing vs. spinning; doesn't matter. Just get the job done.
Mashing vs. spinning; doesn't matter. Just get the job done.
I would also suggest lots of sprinting. Flat terrain sprinting is good preparation for the sudden bursts of hard spinning you will have to do when the grade goes up all of the sudden.
And don't understimate the value of miles on your legs. Even flat miles on your legs help develop a good base for those moments when the climbing gets hard.
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Timing makes it hard to go the real hills regularly, I do most my riding after 8pm when my kids are in bed. I guess right now I am not really looking for speed, I guess I was thinking if I mash up the smaller hills it would help strenghen me to spin up the longer ones
Anything you can do to increase your threshold power will help with hill climbing. The standard intervals for that are 2x20min with 5 min rest. Ride these as close to your threshold power/HR as possible 2-3 times a week and your power should improve. You can do these intervals on the flat or on a hill. Hills are usually easier for motivation but it doesn't matter much where you do them.
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I have wondered if some bikes climb better because they are stiffer or is it just weight. A lighter bike will climb better? I have a Calfee Tetra Pro which is a good all around bike. Calfee makes a bike called a Dragonfly which cost $1,000 more and the frame is a half pound lighter. The bike is also stiffer.
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I f'ed up my ACL mashing hills. Recovering from surgery the last month, been off the bike 3 months. Be careful. I suggest spinning. Buyer beware or whatever...
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Or you could try what Cameron Cogburn did on his way to winning the Mt Washington hill climb: https://www.ccbracing.com/content/mt-...imb-case-study
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Or you could try what Cameron Cogburn did on his way to winning the Mt Washington hill climb: https://www.ccbracing.com/content/mt-...imb-case-study
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I try this, https://www.winthefight.org/granfondo...cal_double.htm, this year. Did my base mile, dropped 20lbs and thought I was ready. Well lets just say some of the 20% grades got me. Nothing will make you a better climber other than doing it.
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I try this, https://www.winthefight.org/granfondo...cal_double.htm, this year. Did my base mile, dropped 20lbs and thought I was ready. Well lets just say some of the 20% grades got me. Nothing will make you a better climber other than doing it.
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I'm 200 lbs and hills can be tough. There is a nice Downhill leading to a steep uphill that I try to go back and forth several times. Downhills are fun and give a nice break before mashing it uphill again. I find the toughest part is still getting the correct gearing. Sometimes I can shift smooth, other times its like my bike just doesn't want to shift when there is so much tension on the drive-train.... I climbed my steepest hill yet yesterday. Short and steep. I would say like 20% grade. I had to zig-zag back and forth to make it up. A full body workout for sure.
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g. and quickly learned that no matter how many miles you put on the flats, they do nothing to prepare you for the hills. I want to be able to ride in hills around Colorado unfortunatally all my weekday rides originate from my house so I don't have any big hills to regularly ride on to prepare.
Here's my question: obviously the only way to get good at riding hills it to actually ride them.
Thanks for your help
Here's my question: obviously the only way to get good at riding hills it to actually ride them.
Thanks for your help
Incorrect on both counts. It's how you ride those flat miles that matters. Raising your FTP by doing longer intervals on the flats will make a big difference in your climbing.
And having just finished the US Pro Challenge Course, coming from Fl, I don't want to hear a guy living othe front range complaining about not being able to train to climb.
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Tabatas don't do that much for your FTP, which is what you need for long climbs. And they don't do anything for endurance.
See https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...abata-Protocol
See https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...abata-Protocol
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Tabatas don't do that much for your FTP, which is what you need for long climbs. And they don't do anything for endurance.
See https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...abata-Protocol
See https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...abata-Protocol
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This:
which is the same thing as this:
There is very little strength involved in long hill climbing. At 300W and 90RPM the peak force on your pedals is around 82lbs.
Anything you can do to increase your threshold power will help with hill climbing. The standard intervals for that are 2x20min with 5 min rest. Ride these as close to your threshold power/HR as possible 2-3 times a week and your power should improve. You can do these intervals on the flat or on a hill. Hills are usually easier for motivation but it doesn't matter much where you do them.
Anything you can do to increase your threshold power will help with hill climbing. The standard intervals for that are 2x20min with 5 min rest. Ride these as close to your threshold power/HR as possible 2-3 times a week and your power should improve. You can do these intervals on the flat or on a hill. Hills are usually easier for motivation but it doesn't matter much where you do them.
Incorrect on both counts. It's how you ride those flat miles that matters. Raising your FTP by doing longer intervals on the flats will make a big difference in your climbing.
And having just finished the US Pro Challenge Course, coming from Fl, I don't want to hear a guy living othe front range complaining about not being able to train to climb.
And having just finished the US Pro Challenge Course, coming from Fl, I don't want to hear a guy living othe front range complaining about not being able to train to climb.
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Well, I should say "relatively" complicated. More complicated than burying yourself a few times for three minutes anyway.
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