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Southerntier8 09-10-12 05:55 PM

Lost a local cyclist last week
 
Here is the link to the brief article:

http://www.fingerlakesdailynews.com/...id=16&id=45395


Penn Yan Man Killed in Bike Accident
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9/6/2012 1:45:31 PM
By Lucas Day
A 65 year old Penn Yan man was killed Wednesday after being involved in a bicycle accident on County Route 87 in the town of Wayne. Robert Flickinger was riding his bike near Keuka Hill Road when he lost control of it and crashed into the pavement. An initial investigation suggests the bike may have suffered a mechanical failure. Flickinger died from his injuries. The investigation into the accident continues.
I have been having a hard time getting my head around this. It just seems like such an unlikely way to die. There were no cars seen on the road. He didn't hit a tree. Today was the man's memorial service and my wife went and had a chance to talk to his wife. The police investigators say that all signs point to the catastrophic failure of his CF frame. The frame was in her word was "crumpled" when he was found. The coroner recommended that she not look at the body as much of the impact was to his face. I have spent the past few days trying to figure how this could happen. RIP Flick.

Chris Pringle 09-10-12 06:22 PM

So sad! RIP.

Steve530 09-10-12 06:31 PM

Sad news.

IthaDan 09-10-12 06:36 PM

This is local to me and this is the first I've heard of it.

Condolences.

rangerdavid 09-10-12 06:40 PM

Very sad indeed. Ya just never know when it's going to be your time.

PedalingFool 09-10-12 06:42 PM

Sorry to hear...
"Crumpled" as in ran over (hit and run)?

Busta Quad 09-10-12 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Southerntier8 (Post 14714132)
The police investigators say that all signs point to the catastrophic failure of his CF frame. The frame was in her word was "crumpled" when he was found. The coroner recommended that she not look at the body as much of the impact was to his face. I have spent the past few days trying to figure how this could happen. RIP Flick.

Same thing happened to a NY rider whose Orbea failed around 2005 (?). He was comatose for some weeks before expiring. A good number of attorneys advertise representation in "carbon fiber failure cases".

jdon 09-10-12 08:55 PM

Sad nrws indeed.

009jim 09-10-12 09:17 PM

I suppose that's part of the reason other vehicles aren't made of carbon fibre. Imagine the horror if Mum or Dad was driving the kids to school and their car snapped in half, kids fly onto the road and die.

fstshrk 09-10-12 09:21 PM

Does anyone have any info on the bike make/model? I commute on my steel bike, but also have a CF bike. Every time I hear one of these stories, I think I should have gone with a Ti bike for my "fast" bike.

AK404 09-10-12 10:13 PM

Holy crap. Not sure which alarms me more, the suddenness of it all (no car, no road debris, no animals, no nothing) or me thinking "holy ****, so that's how bad catastrophic failure in a carbon frame can get."

Elvo 09-10-12 10:17 PM

I assume a lugged carbon frame that had an epoxy failure at the lugs?

coppercook62 09-10-12 10:44 PM

Wow

escarpment 09-11-12 08:23 AM

" The coroner recommended that she not look at the body as much of the impact was to his face. I have spent the past few days trying to figure how this could happen. RIP Flick."

This scares me, What a way to go. Do you know if he was wearing a helmet? RIP

Doohickie 09-11-12 08:32 AM

Ack. Awful. The one consolation is that he died doing what he loved (I assume).

tagaproject6 09-11-12 08:38 AM

Awful news!

Chris Pringle 09-11-12 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by escarpment (Post 14716282)
Do you know if he was wearing a helmet? RIP

Yes, he was! If you read the comments at the bottom of the article, it says that the impact to the ground was so strong that the "helmet split in half."

Obviously the investigation continues, but this sounds to me like a typical case of CF fork failure leading the rest of the CF frame to "crumple" upon impact to the ground. I really hope someone finds out who is the manufacturer of this bike. They need to issue a voluntary recall on whatever part failed in this manner ASAP! Another death on a high-end CF bike happened earlier this year. Apparently the victim wasn't aware or didn't act on an issued recall. :(

pallen 09-11-12 09:07 AM

Wow, terrible news.

I too am curious about the bike. There are thousands of people out riding bikes of all kinds. This kind of thing is extremely rare. I wonder if a small animal could have also been involved. I've feared squirrels would be the end of me a few times.

gamby 09-11-12 09:13 AM

This all doesn't help my carbon paranoia. I don't want to be that one in a million. :(

Busta Quad 09-11-12 09:46 AM

http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/x...Rehoboth-crash

Andy Somnifac 09-11-12 09:49 AM

They make planes out of carbon fiber. They make automobile chassis out of carbon fiber.

This is certainly a very sad and tragic case, but there is information missing here. You don't JRA and have your bike randomly assplode. Some kind of external force needs to act on the frame.

eja_ bottecchia 09-11-12 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by 009jim (Post 14714944)
I suppose that's part of the reason other vehicles aren't made of carbon fibre. Imagine the horror if Mum or Dad was driving the kids to school and their car snapped in half, kids fly onto the road and die.

Jim, many high-end exotic cars are now made with carbon frames. The trend continues. Same is true for airplanes. Without more information about exactly what happened to the frame it is impossible to ascertain what role carbon played in this tragedy.

May the rider RIP.

eja_ bottecchia 09-11-12 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Andy Somnifac (Post 14716692)
They make planes out of carbon fiber. They make automobile chassis out of carbon fiber.

This is certainly a very sad and tragic case, but there is information missing here. You don't JRA and have your bike randomly assplode. Some kind of external force needs to act on the frame.

Andy, you beat me to the punch. :)

Busta Quad 09-11-12 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Andy Somnifac (Post 14716692)
They make planes out of carbon fiber.

You cannot compare the tightly-controlled processes of aircraft manufacturing with those of the bike industry.

Andy Somnifac 09-11-12 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by BustaQuad (Post 14716763)
You cannot compare the tightly-controlled processes of aircraft manufacturing with those of the bike industry.

If it's a quality control issue, then the issue is material and industry wide. Welds would be failing on metal frames as well.


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