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Road Cycling or Motorcycling: Your Choice?

Old 09-17-12, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Carbon Unit View Post
Going down on a motorcycle sucks much more than dropping a bicycle. An average road bike weights probably 15 -25 lbs. My Harley weighed 618 without gasonline or oil. Having a motorcycle fall on you and then burn your leg with a hot engine and exhaust pipe isn't much fun.
Harley is not a motorcycle. It's a moving armchair.

I love looking at people riding Harleys. They're gorgeous machines. They sound nice. But hate riding them. The laid back position is just not me.


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This very question is something that's been eating at me this entire riding season. I have a ten year old steel framed road bike that I ride all the time. I also have a Vespa 250 that I use for my daily commute and a mid to late '90's Felt RXC pro that I've adapted for commuting, so my motorcycle has seen comparatively little use. The sad thing is that it's a brand new Tiger 800 that I've had less than a year. I've ridden sport bikes all my life, except for time off taken after my daughter was first born. Motorcycles are addictive but they don't make a whole lot of sense. Even a very utilitarian bike like my Tiger is still pretty specialized. As daily riders, the Vespa and Felt are at least as useful as the Tiger and more pleasant to ride, and the Tiger is a GREAT bike.

So, the thought that's been going through my mind as I ride my road bike is selling the Triumph and using the funds for a new road bike. I still can't bring myself to sell the Triumph but it's probably just a matter of a couple of years before it's gone. In the meantime, I'm going to start test riding new road bikes this week to see if there's anything I'm truly missing.

Totaly understand and agree. Motorcycles are the least practical, the least sensible means of transport. Expensive, fuel greedy, worse at stopping and cornering than cars, but quicker at accelerating. Absolutely diabolical... but once you taste one, how can you not just LOVE them!?

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Old 09-17-12, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Gator View Post
Let's start a bunch of Road Biking or xxxx threads.
No kidding, eh.
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Old 09-17-12, 11:10 AM
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well my motorcycle is in several different pieces after crashing into an 18 wheeler at 90mph, so i'll keep sticking w/cycling
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Old 09-17-12, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Slaninar View Post
Harley is not a motorcycle. It's a moving armchair.

I love looking at people riding Harleys. They're gorgeous machines. They sound nice. But hate riding them. The laid back position is just not me.
I felt the same way about crotch rockets. I tried one twice and hated them. The ones I rode didn't have flywheels and it was hard to maintain a constant speed. The bike was either speeding up or slowing down. Anyway, after dropping a bike on the freeway I really wasn't into speed anymore. I just wanted to enjoy the ride. I love the seating position on a Harley. To me, it was very comfortable. Also, I loved the feeling of torque that a Harley produces. It is like having a big block V8 in a car. I remember going on a ride to Big Bear with two other guys on crotch rockets. They were constantly shifting on the 8000 ft climb and I didn't shift even once. If I was ever to have another motorcycle again, it will be a Harley. However, my motorcycling days are over.
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Old 09-17-12, 11:33 AM
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In the 70s, I rode many miles by bicycle, but slowly phased that out in favor of riding motorcycles. Life intervened as it often does and by the mid 80s I was riding neither. In the back of my head, I always wanted another motorcycle and whenever gas hit $4/gal I'd start looking at used machines. Inertia being a powerful force, I never quite pulled the trigger. Then, I lost my younger brother to a motorcycle accident after which the appeal of riding again diminished substantially. But in less than a year after that tragic event, someone gave my wife a 'starter' bike. So I got an old one off CL so I could ride with her on weekends. My childhood love of riding came back in full force and I now feel that I get a lot of what I longed for in a motorcycle by riding a bike instead. The speeds are much lower of course, but I still get the joy of riding in the open air down beautiful country roads. And I get exercise as well. In a sense, the choice was made for me but I really love biking again and I'm glad I'm doing that rather the motorized equivalent.
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Old 09-17-12, 11:36 AM
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my plump neighbor stopped me yesterday while cycling and said "you know they make those w/motors"
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Originally Posted by Elduderino2412 View Post
my plump neighbor stopped me yesterday while cycling and said "you know they make those w/motors"
Long ago when I was commuting to work I rode up to the rear entrance of my office where the smokers hang out one morning. One of them looked at me and asked "Isn't that dangerous?" as she puffed. I simply replied "Not as dangerous as that".
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Totaly understand and agree. Motorcycles are the least practical, the least sensible means of transport. Expensive, fuel greedy, worse at stopping and cornering than cars, but quicker at accelerating. Absolutely diabolical... but once you taste one, how can you not just LOVE them!?
"Diabolical" pretty much says it all. The thing I love about my Tiger is searching out those mountain passes or back roads that turn to dirt. The Tiger will take me pretty much anywhere I want to go and it's certainly more capable than I am. Plus, on the open road, the triple sings a unique tune.

I understand why cruisers and Harleys appeal to some but they do nothing for me. Same goes for pure sport bikes these days. To me, they're only worthwhile on the track. Off the track, owning a sport bike is your most efficient pathway to higher insurance costs. At best.

And, if you've never owned a motorcycle, you have no idea how expensive they are to maintain. When I owned Ducatis, which I love dearly, $500 to $1000 service bills were to be expected. New rear tires every 3000 miles? That adds up quickly.

Slowly but surely, I'm talking myself into it. I'll test ride a new road bike or two this Friday. After that, who knows?
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Old 09-17-12, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by terrier View Post
And, if you've never owned a motorcycle, you have no idea how expensive they are to maintain. When I owned Ducatis, which I love dearly, $500 to $1000 service bills were to be expected. New rear tires every 3000 miles? That adds up quickly.
Newer sport touring tires can last 10K+ miles. Yes, on a Ducati.
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Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
Newer sport touring tires can last 10K+ miles. Yes, on a Ducati.
The rear tire on my Boss Hoss lasted until I twisted the throttle
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Old 09-18-12, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
Newer sport touring tires can last 10K+ miles. Yes, on a Ducati.
I mounted a set of Pilot Roads on my Hyper about a year before I sold it and yes, they will outlast the stock Diablos by a wide margin. Most folks on the Duc board that switched to them were getting at least 6K out of the rear and sometimes over 8K. 10K is a stretch but I'm guessing there's a tire out there that will last that long on a Duc under certain conditions.

Motorcycles are expensive to maintain, that's the real point. Hell, my Vespa isn't cheap to maintain and it'll need a replacement for the rear tire after 3500 to 4000 miles.

With a bicycle, I can do most, if not all, of the maintenance myself, even living in a 4th floor condo. Will I miss motos if I sell? Probably, but it'll be a while before the decision is made.
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Old 09-18-12, 08:58 AM
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i never thought i'd ever give up motorcycling, i've been riding since i was 7! but cycling has taken over BIG time. i still can't get myself to sell my motorcycle, its been sitting all season, i probably rode it 2-3 times....
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to pick one over the other, I'm taking the motorcycle. there are many other forms of exercise for me to stay fit with, motorcycles, for me, have a relaxing zen-like quality that nothing has ever been able to replicate. it does not matter if its a sportbike or a cruiser or a bagger, they all have a place in my garage and my heart. FTR - at the moment, I only have a bicycle, finances prevent the motorcycle for now (3 kids and other financial responsibilities), however, if my wife said you can get a motorcycle if you trade for the bicycle i'd do it.
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to pick one over the other, I'm taking the motorcycle. there are many other forms of exercise for me to stay fit with, motorcycles, for me, have a relaxing zen-like quality that nothing has ever been able to replicate. it does not matter if its a sportbike or a cruiser or a bagger, they all have a place in my garage and my heart. FTR - at the moment, I only have a bicycle, finances prevent the motorcycle for now (3 kids and other financial responsibilities), however, if my wife said you can get a motorcycle if you trade for the bicycle i'd do it.
This is blasphemy in the house of the 41
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Originally Posted by terrier View Post
I mounted a set of Pilot Roads on my Hyper about a year before I sold it and yes, they will outlast the stock Diablos by a wide margin. Most folks on the Duc board that switched to them were getting at least 6K out of the rear and sometimes over 8K. 10K is a stretch but I'm guessing there's a tire out there that will last that long on a Duc under certain conditions.

Motorcycles are expensive to maintain, that's the real point. Hell, my Vespa isn't cheap to maintain and it'll need a replacement for the rear tire after 3500 to 4000 miles.

With a bicycle, I can do most, if not all, of the maintenance myself, even living in a 4th floor condo. Will I miss motos if I sell? Probably, but it'll be a while before the decision is made.
I do almost all the maintenance myself. So I pay just for the parts. Even that way, it's around 500 euros per season. And I ride only for fun, I commute on a bicycle.

Tyres can last from 5000 kms to 20.000 kms. If you want sticky tyres for fast riding, they will not last. If you want dull boring ride, you can get some touring tyres and take it easy on the throttle and braking... but that sort of beats the purpouse of riding for me.

BTW, a mate who used to race cycles regards Triumph's triple as THE BEST motorcycle engine.
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Originally Posted by Elduderino2412 View Post
This is blasphemy in the house of the 41
sure, but this is a theoretical argument anyway, I've never not had a bicycle since I was like 2yrs old. even if it was me keeping my el cheapo trek 3700 mtb or the mid90's vintage trek 800 mtb I'd still have at least A bicycle. so its not like I'd be truly giving one up for the other anyway.
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Motorcycles are expensive to maintain, that's the real point. Hell, my Vespa isn't cheap to maintain and it'll need a replacement for the rear tire after 3500 to 4000 miles.

With a bicycle, I can do most, if not all, of the maintenance myself, even living in a 4th floor condo. Will I miss motos if I sell? Probably, but it'll be a while before the decision is made.
Relative.
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My son is really into motorcycling like I was when his age. I cicuit raced for many years, dabled in Enduro and Trials but often times had my bicycle along to check out the track before or after racing. I am down to one motorcycle now, selling them off when a buyer came along but as long as my son rides I will keep one ready in the garage for quality time with him. A while back the two of us rode down to NC and tamed the Dragon. The skills I developed for the motorcycle come back to me right away even if off the bike for months at a time, try and stay off your bicycle that long. To keep my fitness on the bicycle, I need to ride all the time. So in a world where I would have to chose, it would definatly have two wheels.
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Originally Posted by terrier View Post
I mounted a set of Pilot Roads on my Hyper about a year before I sold it and yes, they will outlast the stock Diablos by a wide margin. Most folks on the Duc board that switched to them were getting at least 6K out of the rear and sometimes over 8K. 10K is a stretch but I'm guessing there's a tire out there that will last that long on a Duc under certain conditions.
I twice got over 10K on my Pilot Road 2's before I sold the bike. I know other people on the Monster board got similar life out of them.
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Originally Posted by Slaninar View Post
Harley is not a motorcycle. It's a moving armchair.

Totaly understand and agree. Motorcycles are the least practical, the least sensible means of transport. Expensive, fuel greedy, worse at stopping and cornering than cars, but quicker at accelerating. Absolutely diabolical... but once you taste one, how can you not just LOVE them!?
if you're talking about high end race cars, yes, i'd agree. measured braking and cornering performance though says they are about the same, example via a little google-fu: braking distance of 2010 gsxr1000 60-0 = 126' (I'd expect a slightly lighter 600 class machine to equal or even best this), 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid 60-0 = 120' on first attempt, 160' after repeated attempts. even the harley v-rod has been measured at 109'. so I don't think that is a fair assessment.

overall, you only get faster/quicker/better handling when you step up to very high end sports cars, and even then they have to be pretty heavily modded to compete with a bike on a road course. its just not fair to motorcycles to characterize them as you do.

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