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Lightweight Wheels Suitable for Heavy Rider

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Old 09-25-12, 11:15 AM
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Lightweight Wheels Suitable for Heavy Rider

I want to upgrade from my Shimano WH-R500 wheels on my SuperSix, as I hear it's the one upgrade that makes the biggest difference after proper fitting and saddle.

Looking for something sub $1,000 dollars, can support a 210-pound rider, and last a long time.

Would the 400-gram savings with a set of alloy wheels like Mavic Ksyrium make a noticeable difference? Or should I just stick with the current 1900-gram wheels?
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Originally Posted by Liist

Would the 400-gram savings with a set of alloy wheels like Mavic Ksyrium make a noticeable difference? Or should I just stick with the current 1900-gram wheels?
Are you racing?
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They list the max weights on their site:
https://lightweight.info/

Lowest one is 100 kg which is 220 lbs. I'd imagine there is an SF of 1.5 or 2 so you might be able to get by.
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Originally Posted by MindProbe
Are you racing?
Starting Cat 5 collegiate in the spring.
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Originally Posted by MindProbe
Are you racing?
The 0.4% speed increase on the steepest hills won't matter to him as a racer because he most likely lacks the power to weight ratio that'd have him off-the-front in that situation (that usually goes with bodies that weigh about 2 pounds per inch of height).

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Originally Posted by Liist
Starting Cat 5 collegiate in the spring.
210 lbs is pretty heavy. Are you a sprinter?
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt
The 0.4% speed increase on the steepest hills won't mater to him as a racer because he most likely lacks the power to weight ratio that'd have him off-the-front in that situation (that usually goes with bodies that weigh about 2 pounds per inch of height).
Hills? I've heard of no such thing in Florida.

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210 lbs is pretty heavy. Are you a sprinter?
Just started cycling three months ago, and I've already lost 15 pounds. The collegiate club team gets a few sponsors, and I am working to become a sprinter, since climbing does not exist.
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Originally Posted by Liist
I just started cycling about three months ago, and have lost 15 pounds already. Just joined the school club team to give racing a try next year, and wheels are pretty cheap due to a few sponsors.
My advice is to keep the heavy wheels to train on and buy race wheels specifically for the Spring. By then your weight should be down even more, and training on the heavy wheels will just make you stronger. Over to others to make wheel recommendations - I haven't raced in a long time.
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Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt
The 0.4% speed increase on the steepest hills won't mater to him as a racer because he most likely lacks the power to weight ratio that'd have him off-the-front in that situation (that usually goes with bodies that weigh about 2 pounds per inch of height).
im at 2.2 or 2.3 i think, an i climb pretty well.....
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Originally Posted by Elvo
They list the max weights on their site:
https://lightweight.info/

Lowest one is 100 kg which is 220 lbs. I'd imagine there is an SF of 1.5 or 2 so you might be able to get by.
I don't think the OP is asking about that Lightweight

As to the original question, at 210 lbs I think you would be OK on most good quality high-end factory wheels, such as Shimano Dura Ace, Campagnolo Shamal, etc... Or you can get a pretty nice pair of hand-built wheels for less than $1,000; for example, Velocity A23 rims with White Industries hubs and a good set of spokes. Go with 32 holes front and rear and/or a heavier gage spoke if you want some extra durability.

But do keep in mind that lighter wheels won't make you appreciably faster, especially on the flats. For that, I would look into a pair of aero wheels (not that those make you appreciably faster, either, but every little bit helps when you are racing). Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL can be had for under $1,000 and I have had great luck with mine.

Good luck.

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Put Williams 30X on your short list.

But I don't think new wheels are going to make a huge difference. Very modest. You may wish to save your money and use what you have for now.
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Madfiber makes some carbon wheels for about $3,000 that weigh about 1 kg for the set. They have no weight limit. In Florida, they won't be faster than heavier wheels in your budget; they'll be easier to 'spin up' for a split second, but that's a small fraction of a race. You'll gain more from aerodynamics.

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My advice is to keep the heavy wheels to train on and buy race wheels specifically for the Spring. By then your weight should be down even more, and training on the heavy wheels will just make you stronger. Over to others to make wheel recommendations - I haven't raced in a long time.
This is frustrating, but good advice.
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Let me vote for some 23mm wide rims on decent hubs and train the bejeesus out of yourself on them, then (maybe) get some light race wheels for racing in future years. But frankly, until you're a whole lot lighter, even a pound on your wheels is immaterial. My understanding is the R501s are terrible, but some 105 hubs with DT Rev spokes and A23 rims would be durable and pleasant to ride for far less than $1000. Less than $500, I think. Get some HED Belgian rims instead if you want to spend a little more.
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I'll go the LBS to see what's available since they offer good discounts on factory wheels. Will probably get some better training wheels and tires and stick the WH-R501s on my future commute bike.
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I would use ALPHA 340 rim 28/32. Go 2 cross front 3 cross rear with SAPIM CX RAY spokes and brass nipples. I used WHITE INDUSTRIES H2 /H3 hubs. Under 1400grams and under 1K.
Had them built here https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/cw/#.UGJrLa5KySo
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How about Dura Ace WH-7900?
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Under a grand factory wheels? Mavic Ksyrium Elite or Shimano RS-80 if you want new wheels for motivation. Ride a lot. Doesn't really matter that much for crit racing anyway.
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Mavic wheels are waaaaay over rated and expensive for what you get.

Off the beaten path but check out Topolino wheels. https://www.topolinotech.com/

Carbon fiber spokes that span the wheel diameter (pass through the hub). Very light and I don't think they have a rider weight limit. They ride amazing too. Carbon spokes really dampen the road buzz.
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After that - some kinlin rims laced to some light hubs. Kinlin rims are strong.
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Not precisely on topic, but if you want to race at 210 pounds, race. You're not likely to win the Tour de France anyway, so just go have fun. I haven't weighed as little as 210 since I was a junior in high school, except fleetingly after an illness a year or so ago, but I've competed in running and cycling for nearly 40 years.
That 2-pounds-per-inch factoid about pro cyclists is apparently accurate, btw. I saw a breakdown a few years ago, and most were right at two pounds. None was over a kilogram (2.2 lbs) per inch of height.
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Lightweight Wheels Suitable for Heavy Rider

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I think losing weight would be the first thing to do. Then buy some wheels that suit your racing weight.
Unless you just want some bling.
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24h radial front / 28h 3x rear, handbuilt, on Xray spokes and the best hubs you can afford. With a A23s on DT Swiss hubs, you could get a set around 1500g. Definitely consider a wider rim. For machinebuilts, Shimanos seem to hold up well thanks to their proprietary spokes and reinforced eyelets and rims. RS80s can be had cheap now and are head to beat for the money.
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