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beatlebee 09-29-12 07:10 AM

Importance of Platform Size
 
How important is a large platform? Or does the stiffness of the shoe matter as much or more?

I am considering getting new pedals, been riding/racing on Speedplay Frogs (I know you are cringing.) and like the weight, longevity, and the fact that I can commute easily on my race bike to work with mtb. shoes.
I use carbon soled road shoes when I am not commuting. Keywins have caught my eye but are expensive to get the same weight as the frogs.

Thanks.

Aeolis 09-29-12 07:42 AM

I suggest ultegra carbons. 160 bucks large platform, light.

beatlebee 09-29-12 09:50 AM

Thanks.

I am more interested in opinions of those who have tried a lot of different platform sizes.

colombo357 09-29-12 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by robabeatle (Post 14786975)
How important is a large platform? Or does the stiffness of the shoe matter as much or more?

I am considering getting new pedals, been riding/racing on Speedplay Frogs (I know you are cringing.) and like the weight, longevity, and the fact that I can commute easily on my race bike to work with mtb. shoes.
I use carbon soled road shoes when I am not commuting. Keywins have caught my eye but are expensive to get the same weight as the frogs.

Thanks.

Stiffness of the shoe matters the most.

Large platforms feel a bit more secure and stable when you're out of the saddle.

Plenty of pros use Speedplays. I wouldn't consider those to be "small" platform pedals, considering the size of the cleats.

Regulard SPD pedals, like you see on MTBs and spin bikes, would be considered small.

beatlebee 09-29-12 10:01 AM

To be clear, I am using Speedplay Frogs right now. They are designed for mtb. They feel very secure even pulling hard out of the saddle (after modification...). I do not get hotspots either. But I am curious, but not sure if I am ~$150 curious.

Thanks

abstractform20 09-29-12 10:03 AM

just get speeedplay zeros (actually have slightly larger connection/platform than Look or Shimano).

MegaTom 09-29-12 10:06 AM

The only time I find platform size to be an issue is when I ride around the block or something in non-riding shoes. Otherwise, a shoe with a stiff enough sole largely negates any advantage based on platform size alone.

bikerjp 09-29-12 11:11 AM

I switched from SPD (small platform) to SPD-SL with a larger platform and didn't really notice much different but both pair of shoes have carbon soles so are quite stiff. Shoes matter most. However, I do like the SPD-SLs better overall.

halfspeed 09-29-12 01:02 PM

If your frogs are fine, stick with them. Road pedals are overrated.

achoo 09-29-12 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 14787823)
If your frogs are fine, stick with them. Road pedals are overrated.

I wouldn't say they're overrated, but yeah, don't fix it if it ain't broke.

If you do need/want road pedals anyway, I'd say get Shimano 105s from Ribble. Usually about $50 or so. They're almost exactly the same as the non-carbon Ultegra 6700s.

beatlebee 09-29-12 01:45 PM

Thanks. I think that Ill stick with the frogs.

wants185s 09-29-12 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 14787823)
If your frogs are fine, stick with them. Road pedals are overrated.

+1 I use crank bros egg beaters with SIDI MTB shoes (not carbon soles but fairly stiff soles). I also have a set of crank bros pedals with platforms. The only difference I can feel is that the platform versions are a bit more difficult to clip in. Otherwise I can't tell the difference.

Clipped_in 09-29-12 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by wants185s (Post 14788981)
+1 I use crank bros egg beaters with SIDI MTB shoes (not carbon soles but fairly stiff soles).

Me too. I have thousands of miles on them including a boatload of centuries with no problems. Stiff sole shoe with smaller platform works fine for most.

beatlebee 10-04-12 08:12 PM

Decided on a whim to try Dura -Ace. Hands down, the right choice. Feel much more connected to the bike. So, not so much a platform issue, but rather the “loose-ness” of the frogs is now a memory.

ruindd 10-04-12 09:29 PM

I'd argue that "shoe to cleat" area and "cleat to pedal" area matter the most. You could have a square meter of platform, but if only 0.001 mm^2 are touching your shoe, it doesn't really matter. SPD-SL cleats are pretty big, but a lot of it doesn't touch your shoe, so it's pretty comparable to a Look Keo cleat. Speedplay pedals have a pretty small area, but the area of cleat and pedal touching is actually pretty high. I think the platform area is often a red herring.


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