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Garmin forerunner 305 vs garmin edge 500 and edge 705

Old 09-29-12, 09:15 PM
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Garmin forerunner 305 vs garmin edge 500 and edge 705

So i currently have the forerunner watch that I use as my bike computer. The heartrate monitor doesnt work anymore so i would like to upgrade. Would you recommend the edge 500 or 705 and why? I would get the full package with cadance and heart rate. Or would u recommend just buying a new heart rate belt for my forerunner.
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Try re-pairing the HR strap.

If you want to track where you've been get the 500 as it's newer, smaller and less expensive than the 705. If you need maps get the 800 as it's the next generation replacing the 705.
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I love the 500. Does everything I would ever want. Have the HR and Cadence which I use to ride by more than any other data.
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The one thing need to know about the 500 is that you can't program a course into it and/or have it do turn-by-turn directions on the fly, although it will produce a graphic-based map and track where you've been once you complete a route. Personally, if I'm going to go for a Garmin, I'd go with the 705 or the 800. The 800's really not that big a leap from the 705, other than the touchscreen input, which some may like. But it's a big step up from the 305 or 500 in functionality. The 500 is really marketed toward folks who want some additional capabilities in a computer but don't want to spend the money for the 705 or 800.
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I have a forerunner 405CX that I used to use for running and biking. I bought the edge 500 and use it on all my bikes and I am very happy with it. I still use my forerunner, but just for running. The display on the forerunner was just to small for cycling IMO.
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The 500 is really marketed toward folks who want some additional capabilities in a computer but don't want to spend the money for the 705 or 800.
Well, not necessarily. It's not a question of spending the money as much as it is one of needing the extra bells and whistles on the 800. I ride roads which are familiar, and have no need for the GPS to show me where I need to go. I do need the Ant + capability and cadence and HR tracking. The 500 has what I need.
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Old 09-30-12, 06:49 AM
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Does the cadence sensor on the Garmin Edge 500 work with cycling trainers?
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Originally Posted by Stomper View Post
Does the cadence sensor on the Garmin Edge 500 work with cycling trainers?
Yes, except the Lemond Revolution (LR uses no rear wheel; without a rear spoke magnet, no speed reading, and therefore no "ride" can take place).
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Old 09-30-12, 09:42 AM
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If you're flipping between the 705 and 800, go for the 800 every time. 705 is EOL, so no new software development. 705's control stick is far slower for some inputs than the 800's touch screen. 705's CPU is far wimpier than 800, for which I've had Garmin reboots while my wife's 800 never gives up. I wish I had justification to replace my 705 with an 800.
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Old 09-30-12, 11:16 AM
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If you like to ride new routes and explore areas outside your known area, then I would get the 705/800.
I used to explore new routes and was constantly stopping at intersections reading the cue sheet and then I would still get lost. Has been great since I got the 705, I can keep moving in the right direction and am never lost.
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Old 10-01-12, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by revchuck View Post
Well, not necessarily. It's not a question of spending the money as much as it is one of needing the extra bells and whistles on the 800. I ride roads which are familiar, and have no need for the GPS to show me where I need to go. I do need the Ant + capability and cadence and HR tracking. The 500 has what I need.
This is all true. The one reason I cautioned the OP about the 500 is that I think so many times people buy what they think they can get away with, only to get home with it, use it for a while and decide they would have wanted the additional capabilities. In those situations, it's far chaper in the end just to get what you want from the get-go.

One of the interesting things about cycling is that the upgrade business is almost as lucrative for manufacturers as the original equipment business in large part because people don't buy what they're going to stick with in the beginning.

I love my 705 and believe what folks say about the 800, but it's hard for me to justify spending the extra coin for one when the 705 works perfectly. Given that these devices last for a long time, it's just important to make sure you know what you want and will be happy with it.
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The 500 is smaller and cheaper. Many of us do not have the need for GPS routing, color screens, and what not.
It is one of my favorite training tools.
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Old 10-01-12, 08:43 AM
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Many don't realize that you can download a TCX course to the 500 and have it depicted on the display along with your position relative to it so you can follow it. Of course unlike the 705 or 800, there's no map showing streets or other landmarks or turn-by-turn instructions for road rides, but a wiggly line you can follow may be all you want or need.
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Old 10-01-12, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
The one thing need to know about the 500 is that you can't program a course into it and/or have it do turn-by-turn directions on the fly.
This is mostly true but you can pre-program a "course" into the 500 using a TCX file. You don't get true turn-by-turn, but it shows you when to turn and warns you when you go off course. Not perfect by any means, but it gets the job done. Here is a pretty good tutorial: https://socialcyclists.org/road-forum...rmin-edge-500/
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Let me put in a vote for the etrex 30. It has ANT+, can use open source maps and the GPS accuracy is amazing. PM me if you end up getting it so I can give you some tips on how to set it up.
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I use the 500 and I love it. It does just what I want. It tracks my speed and distance and I can upload my tracks to Strava. I don't really need maps. It's perfect for me.
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Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
The one thing need to know about the 500 is that you can't program a course into it and/or have it do turn-by-turn directions on the fly, although it will produce a graphic-based map and track where you've been once you complete a route. Personally, if I'm going to go for a Garmin, I'd go with the 705 or the 800. The 800's really not that big a leap from the 705, other than the touchscreen input, which some may like. But it's a big step up from the 305 or 500 in functionality. The 500 is really marketed toward folks who want some additional capabilities in a computer but don't want to spend the money for the 705 or 800.
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This is mostly true but you can pre-program a "course" into the 500 using a TCX file. You don't get true turn-by-turn, but it shows you when to turn and warns you when you go off course. Not perfect by any means, but it gets the job done. Here is a pretty good tutorial: https://socialcyclists.org/road-forum...rmin-edge-500/
Actually 500 can display turn-by-turn. Try RideWithGPS.com.
Even with basic subscription you can get turn-by-turn maps imported into your Garmin 500.
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Unless you go up to the 705, you're not really gaining anything except power display, which is not an issue for you. As said above, re-pair your ANT+ HR strap, change the battery, or get an new one for <$45. All options are far cheaper than a whole new unit.
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Its a tough decision the 500 would work great but then the lack of gps keeps going through my head. I guess if i ever get lost i can alway whip out the iphone
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Originally Posted by Bumer View Post
Actually 500 can display turn-by-turn. Try RideWithGPS.com.
Even with basic subscription you can get turn-by-turn maps imported into your Garmin 500.
Even better. Thanks for the tip.
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I feel it's important to clarify something here... Yes, the 500 can do turn by turn directions, but only on a course that you download from a site like RideWithGPS, Strava, etc. You can't input an address into it and navigate your way there if you're lost. So basically, the 500 makes a good computer for those who want to train for a specific event and will mostly just want the ****ions of a standard cyclocomputer. It's not a cheaper replacement for the 705/800.
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Originally Posted by Gjc985 View Post
I guess if i ever get lost i can alway whip out the iphone
The 305 (and I assume the 500 that replaces it) has a RETURN TO START feature, which helps you navigate back to where you first started logging your ride. Had to use this once on a group ride where I got separated.
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Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
So basically, the 500 makes a good computer for those who want to train for a specific event and will mostly just want the ****ions of a standard cyclocomputer. It's not a cheaper replacement for the 705/800.
Or for those who've lived in an area for a while, don't get lost, and just want to track their rides.
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I am now leaning towards the 705 as you can get a refurbished one off of ebay for $299 with the cadence and heart rate. It does the same things as the 500 at the same price plus it includes maps. Anyone have one on here they're looking to unload at a good price?
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I have the 705. I always get frustrated with the maps. Small, hard to read, navigation sucks, always trying to reroute down non existent roads. When I just try to ride a course I have created it is just fine. Any other navigation is horrible. I rode from Ashland to Kalamath Falls. Tried to follow the same route in reverse the next day. Kept taking me to the start, wouldn't stay on the previous course, used dirt roads, suggested turn that were way off course. I turned off auto routing etc...

If I had a computer I could have made a course and done it in reverse, I think.

With that in mind I still think it is a great unit and I use it all the time.
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