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Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14797439)
Not necessarily. There are lots of situations where that sort of rubbish ruins nature. Go work on a fruit orchard for a while.
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Originally Posted by Aeolis
(Post 14795722)
The only things I leave behind are sweat and blood
I live out in the country. 99% of my rides are on roads next to orange and avocado orchards, strawberry fields (forever), horse ranches and assorted other agricultural land uses. Organic materials tossed on the side are fine. Inner tubes, CO2 cartridges and Goo packets are not OK. BTW, those of you who have these idyllic view of pristine, bucolic farms you'd be horrified to find out about some of the chemicals that farmers routinely spray on their crops and land. Try not to be caught riding down wind from a pesticide spraying helo on a windy day...that s h i t will really do a number on you! |
Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14797439)
Not necessarily. There are lots of situations where that sort of rubbish ruins nature. Go work on a fruit orchard for a while. Go live in a small town and work with the local council.
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Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14796943)
In Victorian statutes, litter is defined as “any solid or liquid domestic or commercial waste, refuse, debris or rubbish and, without limiting the generality of the above, includes any waste glass, metal, plastic, paper, fabric, wood, food, soil, sand, concrete or rocks, abandoned vehicles, abandoned vehicle parts and garden remnants and clippings, but does not include any gases, dust or smoke or any waste that is produced or emitted during, or as a result of, any of the normal operations of the mining, building or manufacturing industry or of any primary industry”. Of note is that food, garden waste, soil and rocks are included as litter, as they have the potential to cause a visual impact and to cause the spread of weeds.
Check. Thank you for your public service. |
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Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14797439)
Not necessarily. There are lots of situations where that sort of rubbish ruins nature.
I don't know what the people in India do. I've never been there. Have you? We all agree that throwing things on the side of the road is bad, you seem to be the only one that is going to have a heart attack when something that comes from the earth (unaltered) goes back to the earth. That Indian comment made me laugh, I think the poster was talking about Native Americans not people from India. Nobody cares what your littering laws are, leaves that fall off trees are technically called leaf litter, do you yell at the tree when it sheds a leaf in the fall? http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=276089 |
Originally Posted by abstractform20
(Post 14795716)
here is some banana love (not from the posted link, which cited "keepbritaintidy.com")
"Farmers who seek to improve vegetable production can utilise banana residues as nutrient inputs only in combination with effective weeding; although the nutrients applied through banana mulch may not be utilised effectively compared to chemical fertilisers. " -https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/h...6/cs01069.html 74 days in a bowl (aka not in nature) elephant in 7 days (warning - graphic decomposition content) [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ArFGaCCwE[/URL] if mind=blown, then job = done Mother Nature is the ultimate recycler. |
I do find it interesting that this conversation went from goo packets to fruit peels. I am glad people are eating more fruit on their rides instead of some overly processed sugar syrup.
I think we can all agree that throwing used goo packets, co2 cartridges or powerbar wrappers on the ground is a no-no and probably shouldn't be done. That is a positive step for the bicycling community considering how many I see tossing that stuff anywhere they please. |
Originally Posted by nhluhr
(Post 14793708)
The only thing I discard are banana peels. Any wrappers from food go home with me.
Originally Posted by pallen
(Post 14794084)
now you've done it...
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Originally Posted by nhluhr
(Post 14797696)
I have. We grew apples, cherries, peaches, and plums. Plenty of fruit that fell to the ground was left there and it NEVER caused a problem. Hell, if anything, it provided a massive food resource for various animals.
The vineyards where I live have huge signs up saying the absolutely no grape material is to be brought into that area ... they don't exclude a bunch of table grapes bought at the local Coles. It's that sort of situation where ignorantly tossing fruit material can cause issues. |
Originally Posted by kmill065
(Post 14797876)
That Indian comment made me laugh, I think the poster was talking about Native Americans not people from India.
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For those too young, the Indian comment refers to a television commercial from the 70s (featuring a person appearing to be a native American shedding a tear over litter).
Personally, I think 'leave nothing but tire tracks' is always a good standard to uphold. |
Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14798302)
And did the orchards mind if people came by an threw other types of those fruits into the orchards? I don't think a piece of fruit landing on the ground is going to cause a problem ... I'm talking about introducing disease or other types of fruit into the mix.
The reason grape farmers don't want other grape material present is because they control the flavor and character of those grapes very carefully to make wine and they don't want mixed flavors. A banana peel would have zero effect on a vineyard.
Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14798311)
No, I'm pretty sure he meant people from India ... he used the word Indian.
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Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14798311)
No, I'm pretty sure he meant people from India ... he used the word Indian.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 14798695)
There was this guy, about 500 years ago, named Christopher Columbus ...
CC: "WTF? Where the hell are we?" "Boys, none of these $*** look familiar! Anyone got a clue?" "Nah, f--- it! We can call it something like a new world or something...yeah! That's it!" "Alrighty, let's kill us some people and settle in!" Natives: "Oh great...look at that, boat people!" |
Originally Posted by nhluhr
(Post 14798644)
Well, if you knew anything about history you'd know native Americans were mistaken for "Indians" by the early explorers from Europe who believed they had found a new route to India. The name stuck and to this day, "Indian" stands a 50/50 chance of referring to Native Americans when used by a person from North America.
No, sorry, that foreign country doesn't get much of a mention in the history classes I've taken. |
Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
(Post 14798054)
That is absolutely fascinating video. In the beaches of So. Cal. there are times when groups of sea lions wash ashore and die. It always amazes me to see how quickly the carcasses of these large mammals are reduced to nothing.
Mother Nature is the ultimate recycler. |
Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14798994)
The history of ... some foreign country? :lol:
No, sorry, that foreign country doesn't get much of a mention in the history classes I've taken. |
Originally Posted by nhluhr
(Post 14799141)
What foreign country? I was talking about basic transcontinental exploration, you rube.
"rube"?? |
Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14798994)
The history of ... some foreign country? :lol:
No, sorry, that foreign country doesn't get much of a mention in the history classes I've taken. |
Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14799174)
America ... the foreign country, America. You know ... where the mis-named "Indians" are located.
"rube"?? |
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 14799204)
I'm sorry the schools you went to failed you in such a shocking manner. :(
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Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14799174)
America ... the foreign country, America.
Here are three numbers: 2012 1776 1492 Do some maths. |
Originally Posted by colombo357
(Post 14799221)
Here are three numbers:
2012 1776 1492 Do some maths. :roflmao2: |
oh lawds we've gone from discarded wrappers and CO2 cartridges, to fruit orchard contamination, to the blunders of European explorers and names of native populations. :lol:
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Originally Posted by Machka
(Post 14799217)
America just wasn't important enough to be included on the curriculum. Lots about Canada, of course, and lots about Europe and other countries.
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