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aidan.ie 01-31-05 07:55 AM

one thing about the hydration packs is that they take the water weight off the bike and the bike is easier to control. this is more pertinent to mtb'ing however. i use my hydrapak on road rides also and none of the roadies seem to care. then again, i'm riding an mtb with them so the hydrapak is probably the least of my transgressions!

FrankH 01-31-05 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by krispistoferson
Can you freeze the camelbak to keep it from overheating your back? Has anyone replaced the water bag with a de-boxed box o' wine?

Yup, night before a ride in Summer I'd fill the bladder quarter full, lay it flat in the freezer, next morning top it up and have ice cold water for the next couple of hours.

I don't really care for wearing a full camelback when on the road bike. I think maybe when I'm on the drops, the entire pack is resting flat on the back and tends to sway a bit when cornering. I also do not feel the need to carry too much stuff, just a spare tube, C02 and microtool, with some cash (coins for payphone) just in case.

When mountain biking I have a 100oz Mule and enough junk to fix any mechanicals and a comprehensive first-aid kit. I've also lost water bottles mid-ride and no way I could grab a bottle on the move like I do on the road. I'm more upright on the mountain bike so most of the weight is bearing on the shoulders and waist.

mirona 01-31-05 08:12 AM

Like some people said, it's just not necessary. My $2 water bottles work just fine.

Besides, who wants to look like a buffalo in spandex (as JoeOxfordCT so elegantly described it)

http://www.naputi.com/stuft/pic/buffalo.jpg

DXchulo 01-31-05 08:29 AM

That's awesome! The buffalo needs a Colorado jersey.

pseudobrit 01-31-05 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by khuon

No way in Hell any discerning rider would be caught dead drinking swill like a White Zin.

DriveBy 01-31-05 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by enduro
I have the Camelbak Rogue (70 oz), which has only one pocket (just large enough for a patch kit and multitool) because I didn't want something big and bulky. Mine: http://www.camelbak.com/camelbak/images/pl_60194.jpg

That's the one I have too. I resisted getting one because of bulkiness, but my brother got me the Rogue for Christmas and now I use it for just about every ride. I also carry one bottle with Gatorade, and I don't even do seriously long rides. My rides are 20-40 miles, but I like the security of having plenty of water just in case. Way back when I used to ride much longer distances, there were some times when I got lost :eek: and didn't have any extra water. Now I probably carry too much, but the extra weight just means extra exercise. That will help me lose this gut quicker, so the weight isn't an issue at all. :)

I also carry an under-saddle bag with a tube and CO2 cartridges, but I think I'll transfer that stuff to the Camelbak and lose the bag. There's just enough room for those things, plus a little money and a cell phone. Then I keep a Hammer Gel in a jersey pocket.

The only real problem I have with it is that now I drink too much water. I end up having to look for a place to take a leak after the first 15 miles or so.

squeegy200 01-31-05 09:41 AM

Ive started using the camelbak on my road rides. Its still considered a fashion faux pau by roadies but that doesn't stop me.

In the summer - I can carry more fluids than my two bottles. In the winter, I can carry an extra jacket, tights, etc.

In the same fashion--I rode with downtube shifters for the longest time. STI/Ergo levers were a revelation when I finally tried them and my long trusted downtube shifters became a burden. Same thing with the bottles. It's become a burden to reach down and pick up a bottle. I can't drink when both hands are necessary, and my frame has to be polished off of whatever I've been drinking on my last ride. Not so with a hydration system and I also find that I drink much more often when I've got a hydration system readily available. That's good.

LordOpie 01-31-05 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by squeegy200
...and my frame has to be polished off of whatever I've been drinking on my last ride.

Should you -- or anyone -- want a flavored drink in bottles, I recommend putting water in one bottle in the downtube cage and the flavored drink in the seat tube cage.

CAAD5AL 01-31-05 10:11 AM

Kind of a tangent, but the "flavored drink" thing got me thinking. If you're using a Camelback and getting funk in it, it could be from flavored drinks - the only time I've ever gotten anything nasty in mine was after putting Cytomax in it. The nasties seem to like that sugar. No problems ever just using regular, (chlorinated around here) water, even if I don't air it out or even drain it every time.

SoonerBent 01-31-05 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by pseudobrit
No way in Hell any discerning rider would be caught dead drinking swill like a White Zin.

I'm not discerning. I'm happy, content, laid back and I like White Zin.

SS

audiojan 01-31-05 11:14 AM

I don't think CamelBak's (and the like) are allowed in road racing and tri's.. Although it is known to happen (from time to time) that I'm wrong...

HigherGround 01-31-05 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by mirona
Like some people said, it's just not necessary. My $2 water bottles work just fine.

Besides, who wants to look like a buffalo in spandex (as JoeOxfordCT so elegantly described it)

http://www.naputi.com/stuft/pic/buffalo.jpg

Thanks for posting that, mirona. Definitely the funniest thing I've seen so far today! :beer:

Laggard 01-31-05 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by squeegy200
In the same fashion--I rode with downtube shifters for the longest time. STI/Ergo levers were a revelation when I finally tried them and my long trusted downtube shifters became a burden. Same thing with the bottles. It's become a burden to reach down and pick up a bottle. I can't drink when both hands are necessary, and my frame has to be polished off of whatever I've been drinking on my last ride. Not so with a hydration system and I also find that I drink much more often when I've got a hydration system readily available. That's good.

Not speaking about you in particular, but there seems to be a whole generation of riders who are unable to take their hands off the bars or else see it as some huge dangerous inconvenience. Bike handling skills suffer because of this. I blame things like STI and camelback. It's only a matter of time before someone demands a device that shoves food into your mouth so you don't have to let go of the precious bars.

DriveBy 01-31-05 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Laggard
It's only a matter of time before someone demands a device that shoves food into your mouth so you don't have to let go of the precious bars.

I need one of those for my LaZBoy chair.

shaq-d 02-01-05 01:02 AM

1. 4 water bottles and a seat bag... vs. one camelbak? i'd rather have the camelbak. and it looks better.

2. like others have said, you often run through BOTH a camelbak AND 2 water bottles.

3. self-sufficiency isn't just "cool" or "neat". it's a way of biking. and for me it's the whole point of it.

sd

Raiyn 02-01-05 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by mirona
Like some people said, it's just not necessary. My $2 water bottles work just fine.

Besides, who wants to look like a buffalo in spandex (as JoeOxfordCT so elegantly described it)

http://www.naputi.com/stuft/pic/buffalo.jpg

Nice shot of Jan

Stealthman_1 02-01-05 02:15 AM

I have a Rocket, a Mule, and a TransAlp, I also carry up to 3 bottles on the bike. On summer rides I freeze Cytomax in Polar bottles and freeze 3/4 of a 100oz camelbak (usually the Mule), top all off in morning. With temperatures in the shade up to 105 and even the low 90s at 5000 ft, with humidity levels <20% and nothing but climbing for hours on end you can blow through a huge amount of water.
Winter time, I generally ride <45 miles with 1 bottle.

What's a convenience store? :D


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