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145 Km ride on March 30, starting training now

Old 12-04-12, 04:41 AM
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145 Km ride on March 30, starting training now

So temperatures are dropping gradually and yesterday we had our first bit of snow which didn't last long on the rainy wet roads. Temperatures are still slightly above 0C so there's no chance of roads freezing yet.

Now this morning a co-worker asked me if I would like to ride the Ronde van Vlaanderen (145km) on March 30, 2013. I'm not entirely sure though, even though it would be great fun.

My question to you is, if I start training for the ride this week and I keep in mind that there will be some days I will not be able to ride due to snow or extreme showers, will I be able to ride 145km by March 30?

I've not ridden my bike for over a year, so I'm starting blank here.
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Are you doing it for a time, or just to complete? if just to complete, then start now with short ride, increasing a little every week, and you will do fine, if you wanted to go fast, then without knowing a base fitness, unknown.

Being as there are upto 16000 participants https://sport.be.msn.com/rondevanvlaa.../eng/parcours/ would be surprised if there was much room on the roads to go fast, so as long as you have a reasonable base fitness, you would probably just be pulled along by the group.

Do you have any local cycling clubs you could join? riding with them should get you upto speed quicker than on your own.
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I've done this particular ride in 2011 as well, though that was the 75km version. Speeds are pretty high at times, it's mostly cobblestones where speeds are decreasing very much.
With 16000 participants I tagged along in a group of about 15 guys that were doing around 40km/h.

*edit*
I'm doing it to complete. Though, since my co-worker is in a team his speeds are a bit higher, and I wouldn't want to be known as the slow, fat cyclist here at the office as I've only been working here for a month now

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Anyone else feeling like sharing an opinion on this? I'm pretty excited and would love to ride, though I'm still not entirely sure if it's possible physically.
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Anyone else feeling like sharing an opinion on this? I'm pretty excited and would love to ride, though I'm still not entirely sure if it's possible physically.
Sign up, start riding again. If you don't get into shape to race it then you'll at least be in much better shape to complete it.

Do you know of any other shorter races like that in the Netherlands? I'm interested in doing some sort of "event", although I don't really train to race.
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Originally Posted by speedwobbles
Sign up, start riding again. If you don't get into shape to race it then you'll at least be in much better shape to complete it.

Do you know of any other shorter races like that in the Netherlands? I'm interested in doing some sort of "event", although I don't really train to race.
Awesome quote, and just the motivation I needed I guess

Have a look at this calendar, should be some interesting rides for you

https://www.wielersportinfo.nl/toertochten.htm
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Here's my blog entry about how I trained for a metric century. It was an 8 week schedule and it worked well (even when I missed a week due to illness). What you're doing is closer to an imperial century (100 miles - 160 km) and with the time you have, you should be fine.

One comment: Make sure you train on terrain that is at least as difficult as what the ride will be. In other words, don't train on flat lands for a hilly ride.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
I've done this particular ride in 2011 as well, though that was the 75km version. Speeds are pretty high at times, it's mostly cobblestones where speeds are decreasing very much.
With 16000 participants I tagged along in a group of about 15 guys that were doing around 40km/h.

*edit*
I'm doing it to complete. Though, since my co-worker is in a team his speeds are a bit higher, and I wouldn't want to be known as the slow, fat cyclist here at the office as I've only been working here for a month now
You could complete the ride today (though you'll have more fun if you prepare). Just don't about what others think or try to keep up with people who are faster than you and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
Have a look at this calendar, should be some interesting rides for you

https://www.wielersportinfo.nl/toertochten.htm
Thanks, the KlimClassic is pretty much in my backyard ... I'll have to keep it in mind.
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If you just spend some time riding evry week this is a very doable goal. I have been told that if you your longest training ride needs to be only 1/2 of the event ride, and this has worked for me for rides of similar distances. It only take me a month to be able to do a century comfortably.
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I'm constructing a training schedule based on the one cplager posted on his blog (thanks cplager!) and will fit that into my 'normal' weeks. I'm pretty excited to see where this will be going
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Originally Posted by howsteepisit
If you just spend some time riding evry week this is a very doable goal. I have been told that if you your longest training ride needs to be only 1/2 of the event ride, and this has worked for me for rides of similar distances. It only take me a month to be able to do a century comfortably.
This.

The reason I bought my bike two years ago was to do a 200 mile ride. I was in pretty decent shape and also training for a marathon, but that also meant I couldn't spend much time on the bike. I probably road a total of 500 miles with my longest ride being a 70 mile ride with 2 others. I made it through the 200 mile ride fine. Eat and drink a lot and tag along in those packs and you're good to go.
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
I'm doing it to complete. Though, since my co-worker is in a team his speeds are a bit higher, and I wouldn't want to be known as the slow, fat cyclist here at the office as I've only been working here for a month now
I think you guys are skipping over this part.

Training to just *ride* a century - easy.

Training to keep up on a century with somebody lighter, younger & faster - different kettle of fish. I have a feeling you're sandbagging a little though.

Just train the way you want to ride and give it your best.
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That's correct, I'm not the lightest cyclist around. At over 100kg's I carry quite a load, my co-worker is probably less than 70kg's. Though! A friend of mine, the one I did the 75km with, weighs more than me and is older which puts me in an advantage
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I think you'll be fine. I rode this year in a cancer ride that had day 1 with 160kms and day 2 with 120kms. My previous longest ride 2 weeks before was 60k. I had a couple other rides that were about 20k. Just went ahead and rode. It's about completing and not a race.

The first day was a lot harder though because there were only 300 riders on that route so a lot of solo time. 2nd day, 2800 riders on the route I took so you never rode alone.
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You'll be fine. Sounds like a fun ride.

It's good you're starting to train early.
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I just signed up for the ride, no turning back now
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And obviously, at the point I signed up, snow started falling and the entire country got covered by a white carpet, several cm's thick. Training will be less easy like this but I will have to make do. Temperatures are low enough right now to make the roads freeze. I've created a training schedule for 16 weeks and noticed that I actually have some room to (for instance) skip a ride due to snow or get sick. Obviously this is not my intention, but hey... It could happen...

Tonight I am taking my bike into the living room and I will be taking it apart just to put it back together. Though, during this process I will be cleaning the gear up and will be adding some paste here, and some lube there. The bike needs to be in perfect order to be able to do a ride like this.

The bike in its current state, except for the seat post, Brooks saddle and bottle cage. These items have been swapped about a year ago, currently I'm riding with a Ritchey Biomax Pro saddle, a Pro LT seat post and two cheap but tight (good for cobblestones) BBB cages. I think I will be stripping as many decals as possible and will give it a cleaner look, next to actually cleaning it


Next to the bike needing to be in perfect shape, this also applies to myself, obviously. I will do 3 rides a week, starting of with two 30km rides and during the weekend a double 30km. After two weeks I will be adding 10km per ride, making the ride during the weekend 20km longer. I will be keeping this up untill I am doing 2x50/1x100 and will be mixing in rides over 100km as well. I will be stretching the 100km rides to 110, 120 and 130, ending with the Ronde van Vlaanderen at 140km. I did put 'some' thought into this and really hope I am on the right path here.
If the weather is really failing on me, there is always the option to get into a sports center and hop onto a stationary bike and do some mileage. Not sure if they will let me do 100km on a stationary bike though

If any of you are seeing any mistakes or failures from my side please reply as I am willing to make changes into the schedule. Any tips on bike configuration will be welcome as well. I'm feeling pretty serious about this

Without any further ado, here is the schedule:

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Just bought a Tacx trainer which I am picking up this Monday. Another less reason to procrastrinate
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
I just signed up for the ride, no turning back now
I think you will do very well and you will be happy with your ride... and anxious to go again the following year.
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
Just bought a Tacx trainer which I am picking up this Monday. Another less reason to procrastrinate
Try to find a fan to go with it, youll be miserable on the trainer without it. It's also very dependant on how motivated you are but long base miles on a trainer aren't the best idea i can tell you, if i do that i get burned out mentally. For longer sessions on the tacx i need something to break monotomy like sprints / low cadence high cadence blocks / intervals or something.

Let's just keep our fingers crossed that the weather will be kind to us for a bit longer and an early spring.
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Originally Posted by gerundium
Try to find a fan to go with it, youll be miserable on the trainer without it. It's also very dependant on how motivated you are but long base miles on a trainer aren't the best idea i can tell you, if i do that i get burned out mentally. For longer sessions on the tacx i need something to break monotomy like sprints / low cadence high cadence blocks / intervals or something.

Let's just keep our fingers crossed that the weather will be kind to us for a bit longer and an early spring.
I decided to put the laptop in front of me and ride with audio plugs in. Lots of series and movies to watch to I'll be good.
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Just did 30km on the Tacx in an hour. It's a good start, but damn I'm tired now.
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Originally Posted by FreddyV
Without any further ado, here is the schedule:
I am not a fitness expert, but...

I think your rides at the end are too long. In general, your long ride before the event should be somewhere around 70% to 75% of the long distance. Doing 130 km two weeks before the ride may mean that your body is still recovering from that long ride.

The only other comment is that as long as your flexible, I think the schedule looks o.k. That is, for example, if you get 200 km done that week, but in 4 or 5 rides instead of 3, I think you're doing great. When I trained for 100km, I had two goals each week: total miles and single long ride miles.

All that being said, you may find that as you get close to the end of your schedule, you can ride weekly long rides of 130 km with no problems.

Cheers,
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Thanks for the advice, noted. Changed my schedule a bit so I won't be riding more than 75% of the final distance during the last 4 weeks of training.
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