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I lost 6.5 pounds in 4 days but I知 so weak I can no longer dial it up to 400 watts

Old 12-07-12, 11:35 AM
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I lost 6.5 pounds in 4 days but I知 so weak I can no longer dial it up to 400 watts

The good news of course is the loss of weight. The bad news was that I lost strength and endurance so that I was suffering to keep up with everyone on my weekly training rides.

Here痴 what I ate over the past five days:

Breakfast:
cup of coffee and a banana;

Lunch:
celery with peanut butter, apple, orange, tangerine, raisins, nuts and a salad.

DINNER:
carrots, broccoli and cauliflower dipped in humus, apple, orange, a salad and a glass of wine.

I知 assuming that I just wasn稚 taking in enough calories to sustain the amount of physical activity that I do. I知 now wondering if I start adding back into my diet more protein and pasta today, will I have my normal strength back by tomorrow?
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
I’m assuming that I just wasn’t taking in enough calories to sustain the amount of physical activity that I do. I’m now wondering if I start adding back into my diet more protein and pasta today, will I have my normal strength back by tomorrow?
Assuming you normally have the strength of a box of new born kittens, sure.
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I can lose 6.5lbs in a single day from one good hour long ride preceded by a cup of coffee & a major bowel movement.
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Sorry to break it to you, but those 6.5 pounds aren't the kind of weight you want to lose.

I've never been able to dial it up to 400 watts, but yes, if you spend a couple of days eating properly you should be good to go. Plan out your meals a bit better, aim for a pound a week, and you should be healthier and happier.

Disclaimer: I don't have personal experience with weight loss, but I've heard this over and over from friends. I do have plenty of experience with fatigue/weakness from accidental undereating.
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Damn eat some protein. You are going super heavy on the carbs, but nothing complex that is going to really replenish your glycogen stores. I would try to work some brown rice/oats/whole wheat pasta in there along with a lot more protein.
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Originally Posted by misterwaterfall View Post
Damn eat some protein. You are going super heavy on the carbs, but nothing complex that is going to really replenish your glycogen stores. I would try to work some brown rice/oats/whole wheat pasta in there along with a lot more protein.
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trying to lose weight but you eat peanut butter and drink wine? For less fat and the same calories you could have had a couple of chicken breasts.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
trying to lose weight but you eat peanut butter and drink wine? For less fat and the same calories you could have had a couple of chicken breasts.
<Chuckles>

Peanut butter was a favorite of mine for a long time. I eliminated just peanut butter from my diet (and nothing else) and ten pounds just disappeared.
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The best way to loose weight is eat whatever it would take to maintain your goal weight and keep up with your exercise. It takes longer, but the laws of equilibrium will eventually take you there and it will be easier to stick at that weight as no further dietary adjustments will be needed. Also, it will be much easier to keep up with your proper nutrition and fuel needs and avoid the problems you are having now.

And for what it is worth, loosing 6.5 lbs of body fat in 4 days would require a daily calorie differential of about 5700. Most of the weight you lost was most likely water weight and an emptying of your colon due to reduced food and salt intake.
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that is going to really replenish your glycogen stores
Don't simple carbs replenish your glycogen stores as well?
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Holy crap. None of those things have substance except the peanut butter and barely, the humus and nuts. You're missing a lot of carbs and that's just not enough food to sustain you unless you're a 15 year old kid IMO. This is probably the wrong way to lose weight.

I'm mostly gluten free. I eat vegetables, fruits, meats (not preseasoned), rice and lots of non-wheat starchy things (baked potatoes and Japanese/Korean Sweet potatoes [so freaking good with natural syrups oozing out after the baking... mmmm....]). Eat until I get full since most of the things aren't processed or saturated with fats so I don't have a typical self-imposed limit. From 143 back in August to a constant 133-137 even while eating more than I used to. I do get hungrier faster though. To offset and stave off until meal time, I usually eat a bit of a bag of mixed nuts, granola and fruits or cup of EFS Ultragen or cup of Muscle Milk or Kettle Chips or small column of cheese or etc,etc,etc. Nothing really with crazy factory ingredients. Occassional beer or soda once every 2-3 weeks (not really a urge anymore).
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your food consumption was way off what you should have been eating, even to loose weight. You bonked, plain and simple.
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6.5lbs in 4 days.. and you feel weak... WRONG KIND OF WEIGHT LOSS!
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Originally Posted by Nachoman View Post
The good news of course is the loss of weight. The bad news was that I lost strength and endurance so that I was suffering to keep up with everyone on my weekly training rides.
Same thing happened to me. I was losing a pound a week and keeping my strength. Then I dropped to 1000 calories per day and was not able to recover from workouts at the gym. I got weaker and upped my calories. My strength came back.

I don't think you lost muscle, but you were getting very close. I think you burned up almost all your glycogen, though. I think your body can hold a pound of it, plus the water around it.
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Old 12-07-12, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by aaron200 View Post
Same thing happened to me. I was losing a pound a week and keeping my strength. Then I dropped to 1000 calories per day and was not able to recover from workouts at the gym. I got weaker and upped my calories. My strength came back.

I don't think you lost muscle, but you were getting very close. I think you burned up almost all your glycogen, though. I think your body can hold a pound of it, plus the water around it.
Typically around 2000 calories worth.

There was probably some muscle loss. If your body doesnt have the required nutrients it uses muscle for energy
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yeh, 6.5 lbs of water and muscle. you kicked yourself into starvation and probably ran on nothing by catabolic hormones for 4 days. go see a professional nutritionist if you are intent on starving yourself or a shrink
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<Chuckles>

Peanut butter was a favorite of mine for a long time. I eliminated just peanut butter from my diet (and nothing else) and ten pounds just disappeared.
There's a reason they feed it to starving children in Africa. Virtually unbeatable for calories per gram, and calories per dollar.

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You really should be a bit smarter about this. First off most of the weight lost is water- with such a radical decrease in caloric intake comes a marked reduction in salt intake and water is thus shed, you are trying to cycle, in effect, being very dehydrated. Secondly, such a drop in calories will deplete your glycogen stores and prevent optimal exercise, pushing you into the "bonk" zone at the start of your ride. Thirdly this kind of severe calorie depletion will cause a breakdown of muscle- taking muscle and breaking it down to provide glucose which the brain demands, and thus weakening yourself more. One should never try to loose more than 1-2 lbs per week, anything more comes at the expense of doing bodily harm. Look up https://www.myfitnesspal.com/, that allows you to enter how much you want to loose over how much time you want and figures, roughly , what you need per day.
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That's sad. You must be able to dial it up to 400 if you want to give those Lance wannabes 'the look'.
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That's sad. You must be able to dial it up to 400 if you want to give those Lance wannabes 'the look'.
I used to have "The Look"....except in my case it meant I was bleeding out my ears and was ready to throw in the towel.
Weight loss can be a dilemma if you go too quickly...that's a fact.
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When you tried to dial it up to 400 watts did your guads fall off?
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