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calamarichris 12-26-12 03:03 PM

SPD-SL Compatible Pedals with Non-Clipless/Box Pedal Available?
 
I understand Shimano makes a nice SPD/flat pedal that works with their MTB-style cleats, but do they (or anyone else) make a nice SPL-SL pedal that is compatible with the Road/triangle cleat?

For clarification:
Shimano SPD-SL cleat & pedal (what I'm looking for)

http://media.rei.com/media/s/1145957.jpg

Shimano SPL (MTB/Touring-style) cleat & pedal (which is the only thing I've been able to find).

http://www.getprice.com.au/images/up...ano-pda530.jpg

Only I'd like it with a box/flat/non-clipless option, as I currently have with these old Look pedals:

http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...ookomotief.jpg

These pedals are for my commuter/dog-taxi/liquor-store raider. Sometimes I need clipless, sometimes not.

http://www.calamarichris.com/images/110611-live3ang.jpg

calamarichris 12-26-12 03:06 PM

Barring availability of the above request, are there any platform-converters available for the SPD-SL pedals?
I'll go with the cleat adapters on the shoes with the MTB-style cleats if I have to, but I'd rather not.
Any guidance or suggestions appreciated. Happy New Year!

canam73 12-26-12 03:08 PM

Screw a set of cleats into a pair of flat plates or boards?

hamster 12-26-12 03:24 PM

As far as I know, no one except Shimano makes SPD-SL compatible pedals, and none of the pedals in the Shimano line have flats. A contraption like that simply wouldn't make any sense. There's a well-defined spectrum of target consumers: commuter/occasional rider (sneakers) -> regular rider who likes to be able to walk in his road shoes, or a MTB rider (SPD) -> serious road rider who's willing to accept not being able to walk in his road shoes for the sake of a couple extra % of power transfer (SPD-SL). What you're asking is a pedal that targets group 1 and group 3 at the same time.

hamster 12-26-12 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15089191)
Barring availability of the above request, are there any platform-converters available for the SPD-SL pedals?
I'll go with the cleat adapters on the shoes with the MTB-style cleats if I have to, but I'd rather not.
Any guidance or suggestions appreciated. Happy New Year!

Not 100% sure that I understand the question, but this sounds like what you want

http://www.crazytrike.com/2012/01/07...pinning-class/

calamarichris 12-26-12 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by hamster (Post 15089272)
Not 100% sure that I understand the question, but this sounds like what you want

http://www.crazytrike.com/2012/01/07...pinning-class/

Thanks very much hamster. Those look like a much better plan-B than the SL-SPD acraptors I've found so far.

I'd like to find the SPD-SL version of these old Look PS-26 from the 80's. These are compatible with old Look tri-bolt pedals and are the Bombiggity for commuting IMO, but they're made of plastic, and they creak and the plastic is getting brittle and a small piece chipped off them:

http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/a...ok_ps-26_2.jpg
http://caisley.com/photos/lookpsvin-...9628-18305.jpg
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...angcommute.jpg

Huh... just found these white ones for sale on British Ebay, but $200 is kinda steep, and I prefer Shimano's cleats to Look's...

Camilo 12-26-12 06:48 PM

Hope you can find what you're looking for... But, for a commuter bike, why not just use SPD-type (aka mountain bike shoes, two bolt cleats) set up? Using three-bolt road shoes seems odd on a commuter/utility bike. Might even be cheaper if all you're finding is a $200 solution.

calamarichris 12-27-12 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by Camilo (Post 15089939)
Hope you can find what you're looking for... But, for a commuter bike, why not just use SPD-type (aka mountain bike shoes, two bolt cleats) set up? Using three-bolt road shoes seems odd on a commuter/utility bike. Might even be cheaper if all you're finding is a $200 solution.

Well, when my search resulted in a lesson that the Look Pedal part number "PS76" is actually "PS26". Maybe my squeaky, wobbly, chipped black pedals are scarcer than I initially thought?
Anyway, a search on ebay culminated in my buying these white beauties.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/NOS-Look-PS-2...!dg~~60_57.JPG

Vive l'Age d'Information! We always find the answers we seek, even when they lie within ourselves disguised as typos. :)

coasting 12-27-12 01:21 AM

So these are platform one side and spd-sl other side?

I was interested to find something like that and then realised it doesn't help me. I have to ride on MUPs and walk to the MUP when I am riding with my new to cycling gf because traffic here is terrifying. Recently I have also been riding by myself and I could use my clipless but that means having to switch pedals constantly. Your pedal could help, but, when riding the MUP I still wouldn't be able to walk and clip in, so I'm thinking of getting montain bike shoes and the SPD/platform pedals that shimano make to clip in and walk on and off the MUP.

calamarichris 12-27-12 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 15090922)
So these are platform one side and spd-sl other side?

Yep. Everyone's situation's conditions are different.
I have two steep hills between me and work, and sometimes I like to use the same bike to jet down to the sushi bar or the deutschebag-infested wine bistro where everyone shouts into their cellphones to be heard over everyone else shouting into their cellphones.
And I have to dress well for work. And I have a spare pair of wingtips under my desk. And I don't have to walk much in the shoes that help me get over the two hills on my commute and look pretty good with slacks.
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...-dromartis.jpg

canam73 12-27-12 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15090967)
Yep. ...

Are they actually Spd-sl or a similar (but not compatible) Look cleat?

fstshrk 12-27-12 11:32 AM

I ride my Look Keo and SPD-SL pedals with running shoes quite a lot. Why do you even need the platform?

calamarichris 12-27-12 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by fstshrk (Post 15091935)
I ride my Look Keo and SPD-SL pedals with running shoes quite a lot. Why do you even need the platform?

Quite hilly where I live, commute, fart around.
Sometimes my clipless liquor store jaunts end up more far-reaching than initially intended.
I don't like scratching up my pedals while feeling insecure while on them.

calamarichris 12-27-12 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by canam73 (Post 15091250)
Are they actually Spd-sl or a similar (but not compatible) Look cleat?

Three-bolt triangle cleat, like the SPD-SL, but they are the old-style Look cleats, comme ca:
http://www.wigglestatic.com/images/l...=350&h=350&a=7

Are the new Look cleats compatible with the old, 80's Look pedals like these PS26's?

fstshrk 12-27-12 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15092881)
Three-bolt triangle cleat, like the SPD-SL, but they are the old-style Look cleats, comme ca:
http://www.wigglestatic.com/images/l...=350&h=350&a=7

Are the new Look cleats compatible with the old, 80's Look pedals like these PS26's?

Look Keo cleats are compatible with the Look Keo pedals. Nothing else.

Camilo 12-28-12 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15090967)
Yep. Everyone's situation's conditions are different.
I have two steep hills between me and work, and sometimes I like to use the same bike to jet down to the sushi bar or the deutschebag-infested wine bistro where everyone shouts into their cellphones to be heard over everyone else shouting into their cellphones.
And I have to dress well for work. And I have a spare pair of wingtips under my desk. And I don't have to walk much in the shoes that help me get over the two hills on my commute and look pretty good with slacks.
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...-dromartis.jpg

Ah, now I get it! Love those shoes!

Just another FWIW - not to try to discourage your plan, but in case someone else needs to use a pair of "three hole" shoes with MTB cleats for whatever reason. Shimano makes a 3 hole to 2 hole adapter plate which can then be used with any 2 hole cleat (Shimano, Crank Bros, Frogs, etc.). Or if a person just wants a "street shoe" looking 2 hole cleated shoe, there's some 2 hole shoes that can pass for casual shoes -not as nice looking as the ones pictured, but not garish looking like most bicycle shoes. More like a light hiking or stout walking shoe.

calamarichris 12-28-12 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Camilo (Post 15094425)
Ah, now I get it! Love those shoes!

They are pretty good quality, and except for the sole, appear to be lifelong-shoes. Very thick leather that takes forever to break in, but now they're super-comfy. The brown pair I bought in 2009 still look great, but I just wish the soles had those replaceable little rubber buttons, like Sidi's have.
I decided to get myself another pair of Dromarti's in black with the MTB sole and some A530's. The Dromartis will probably take 2 months to arrive, so at least I have the old, white Looks to keep me rolling until they arrive.
http://www.dromarti.com/images/droma...ortivo_MED.jpg
http://bike.shimano.com/publish/cont...bm.512.384.gif

caloso 12-28-12 05:54 PM

If I'm just running a quick errand or commuting and don't feel like changing shoes, I'll just wear rubber soled shoes on ultegra pedals. Works fine. I would not recommend leather soled shoes.


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