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Old 01-03-13, 03:05 PM
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Scott or Specialized

Looking for a road bike . Budget is at $2,500. After much research I have decided to get a more "relaxed' geometry. Obviously this is worse than buying a car. i could look and engage in mental ************ ad nauseum.

So I am down to 2 bikes.
1. 2013 Specialized Roubaix elite compact with Shimano 105 and Tiagra components

2. A 2012 Scott CR1 Pro with Shimano Ultegra gruppo. As well as great wheels (Mavic Ksyrium Elite)

Both can be had for $2,500.

I know the test ride is key to my purchase.

I will be riding them this weekend. I value opinions of those who are more informed than i in bike matters.

I love the look of the Scott. Only thing is the shifter cables are external. Is this a big deal?

I know Ultegra is a higher end group so for the same money why not?

Lastly, any point to throwing in a Domane in the mix?

Any opinions are welcome.

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Both are nice bikes. Both have quality components. Nothing wrong with 105. External cable routing is just fine. Internal just looks nice. Buy the one that fits you best and rides best. This is very subjective. Also, make sure you like how it looks. Sounds silly, but if you had the most comfortable bike in the world but hated how it looked, it would bug you. Go with what you like. You can't go wrong with either.

BTW, if you are interested in building up a bike and you ride a 58cm frame, I have a Scott CR1 Team frame that is darn near new for sale. Just sayin'. :-)
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Originally Posted by vwchad View Post
Both are nice bikes. Both have quality components. Nothing wrong with 105. External cable routing is just fine. Internal just looks nice. Buy the one that fits you best and rides best. This is very subjective. Also, make sure you like how it looks. Sounds silly, but if you had the most comfortable bike in the world but hated how it looked, it would bug you. Go with what you like. You can't go wrong with either.

BTW, if you are interested in building up a bike and you ride a 58cm frame, I have a Scott CR1 Team frame that is darn near new for sale. Just sayin'. :-)
Appreciate the offer but I fit a 54.
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Well one of the Companies owners has an owner that is sue happy and the other company doesn't. Personally, I'd go for Scott.
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Well one of the Companies owners has an owner that is sue happy and the other company doesn't. Personally, I'd go for Scott.
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Specialized has a reputation for suing small companies that are trying to get started. Unfortunately, they are big enough to get by with it the majority of the time. Even if Specialized doesn't win, the small companies have to spend so much in legal fees that it kills them.

They do make nice bikes though.
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I am a Specialized fanboy. Our shop had looked at picking up Scott but we were amazed by the lack of the quality on the finish of the Scott demo Bikes that the rep brought to us. We really wanted to like them but we just couldn't. As for your $2,500 the Roubaix MSRP is $2,500 but most dealers will be selling that bike for around $2,300. It is all 105 except for chain and cassette.
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I dig my Scott. Part of the finish could be: http://www.scott-sports.com/global/e...bon_Mainframe/

Ride both and pick the one that rides the best. Cant go wrong with either.

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I am a Specialized fanboy. Our shop had looked at picking up Scott but we were amazed by the lack of the quality on the finish of the Scott demo Bikes that the rep brought to us. We really wanted to like them but we just couldn't. As for your $2,500 the Roubaix MSRP is $2,500 but most dealers will be selling that bike for around $2,300. It is all 105 except for chain and cassette.
My opinion is purely based on my thoughts on ethics. I can't argue Gary about his opinion on bikes. This guy certainly knows his stuff.
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Specialized has a reputation for suing small companies that are trying to get started. Unfortunately, they are big enough to get by with it the majority of the time. Even if Specialized doesn't win, the small companies have to spend so much in legal fees that it kills them.

They do make nice bikes though.
What reputation are you referring to? Is it about patent infringement?
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What reputation are you referring to? Is it about patent infringement?
Here is one example. http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...lized-1_203443

Specialized claimed in the suit that Choi and Forsman had breached their employment contract by working on their Volagi business while they were still employed at the company and by not informing Specialized that they were planning to create a business that competed with it.
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I agree the finish on the Scotts is not that awesome. That said, the Zertz on the Roubaix look like ass.

I have a Scott CR1 SL, I really like it. Specialized was on the table too, but I couldn't bring myself to get the Roubaix/Ruby b/c of the aesthetics. The Tarmac is nice looking but the head tube was too short for me so I would have a bunch of dorky looking spacers.

Your call, either way, you will have a nice bike.
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I'm not sure what a Scott Foil frameset goes for in the USA...but I am super happy with my Foil 20. Fit and finish on it are superb, fit feels GREAT for me, and whether riding for distance or more aggressive hill sprints, I enjoy every moment on the bike. I did a Retul fitting when I got the bike, so it could be the fit is really dialed in for me too.
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I really love my Roubaix. Just sayin
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That said, the Zertz on the Roubaix look like ass.
They don't look bad and they really work. I just got a 2013 Roubaix with full 105 (not the Tiagra mix) and I don't think the OP will be disappointed. I got a screaming deal but found most every shop will give you $200 off MSRP without even asking for it. BTW, shifter cable routing is external on the Roubaix too until you get over $3000 MSRP.

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I rode several bikes before I chose my Scott Addict, including the Roubaix and Tarmac. The tarmac was close to what I wanted, but not enough. Now that I have the Scott, I'm glad due to finding out how triggerhappy they are towards other companies.
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The CR1 is a proven frame with a very good reputation. Throw in Ultegra and the Mavics and I think the Scott would be the obvious choice. What wheel set does the Specialized have?
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Specialized are to poplular, nobody buys them anymore < a la yogi Berra

I really like the scott bikes. I wish they had a dealer within 100 miles of where i live, b/c i wanna buy a scott spark this year.
Ride both and see which one you like better.
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The CR1 is a proven frame with a very good reputation. Throw in Ultegra and the Mavics and I think the Scott would be the obvious choice. What wheel set does the Specialized have?
The Spec has the DT Axis 2 whels. I believe the Ksyrium are better, no? Also have been told that as a Clyde the wheels are possibly most important !!
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I won't get into eithics, but after riding both I like the Specialized better, did you also consider the Cannondale Synapse Carbon 5?

http://www.cannondale.com/2013/bikes...mpact-crankset
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i've noticed scott becoming more and more popular.
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Love my Roubaix but between the two bikes the Scott is a better buy.
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I've got a 2011 Scott CR1 Team. Awesome bike, exceptional value. Really happy with everything about the bike.

Went out demoing few Roubaixs for fun. Rode a 2012 Roubaix Comp. Nice bike, but I liked my Scott better. Then I rode the new Roubaix SL4 Expert, and was completely blown away. Now I own both. Was going to sell the Scott, but I let my SO ride it, and she wants to keep it.

I think given the two models you're talking about, assuming they both fit, in my humble opinion, the Scott will be a great bike and a better value.
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... any point to throwing in a Domane in the mix?
Why would you exclude it? If there is a Trek dealer close by, have some fun, go give it a try. If nothing else it could give you a bargaining chip when talking to the Scott or Specialized dealers - 'You know, it's a toss up between your bike and the Trek Domane, can you sweeten the deal for the purchase of your bike?'
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I have the Roubaix and a Domane 4.5. I like the Roubaix alot but like the Domane better. Both are responsive but I like the handling and smoothness of the Domane better than the Roubaix. Test riding is the only way to determine what you like best. I have not ridden the Scott.
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