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Help choosing new bike.

Old 01-08-13, 04:13 PM
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Help choosing new bike.

Hi there,


I was hoping for some help in choosing a new road bike for myself as I will be a married man soon and this could be my last opportunity for a (long) while to upgrade:/.
First post so bear with me. I have a Giant FCR1 (road bike, flat handlebars, allu frame with carbon fork, 105) for the last 5 years, which I have been happy with. I ride about 200 miles a week for fitness. My only foray into comp was one tri- athlon which I loved. The FCR has a lot of miles up on it so I was looking at upgrading my bike. I would like full carbon with reliable components. I have been looking at the following bikes:-

Ridley Orion 12 with Ultegra €1779.

Scott CR1 Team 11 with 105 mainly €1800.

13 Giant Defy Compostie 1 with some Ultegra €1999.

13 Trek Domaine 4.3 with 105 mainly €1999.

All the wheels seem of similar quality.

My main criteria is comfort followed by performance as I have a bad back that would not lend itself to too aggressive a position I think (as I have not used a race orientated bike before).

I will have the chance soon to ride the Scott and Ridley but getting a test ride in the other 2 will require a bit of travelling so I was looking for some views on all 4 but with a view to seeing if I could choose from the two that I will be trying soon and maybe be happy with that.

I am drawn to trying the Trek and Giant as they are supposed to be very comfortable and I was wondering would there be much different between them and the Scott and Ridley.

Any views on my (Happy) dilema would be appreciated.

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As you might imagine, there are a number of threads on this topic on the forums under various subject lines that you might want to peruse. For the money, I think the Giant TCR SL3 is pretty much the best mid-level (e.g. not a 14,000 racer) bike out there. I especially love that everything that comes standard on it is more than adequate, removing that continual feeling that many cyclists have about the need to upgrade. Not sure what current retail on it is, but it would be around $4,800 or thereabouts.
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None of those are bad bikes, and none of them would be a mistake.

You have ridden enough on the flat bars to know what you want in gearing, and what shifts well, and what feels good. If the Ridley or Scott, which are the easiest to test, feel great when you ride them, then buy and move on. If you don't fall i love, then keep looking.

There are hundreds of bikes that you could look at it, but studies suggest that looking at too many items in a comparison decreases your satisfaction long term (leads to the "If I only I'd bought.." thoughts).
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Thanks RollCNY,

I was organising to test some bikes today and one of my lbs has given me a Ridley Orion to keep for a week . My other lbs said it would only allow me test the bikes (Scott and Cube Agree GTC SL) on a turbo trainer, which is a bit of a waste of time. I sure I could get them to let me go out in the car park for a while or something but I am so hoping I will love the Ridley just for the difference in service and trust form the other LBS.
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If you are buying new, the LBS makes all the difference. The ridley seems to be the cheapest so thats a plus. 1 year old ultegra is better than 105. But all the bikes are pretty similar in components and build quality. Color and Size also play a role in this.
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I secretly, oh hell openly, lusted after an Orion or Excalibur, in the 2011 Flandrien color scheme, for years. The week long test ride sounds like an awesome opportunity.

The nice thing about that amount of time is it gives you a chance to sit with it. I bought a BMC SL02 with 105 (for one of the phenomenal Competitive Cyclist deals), that I wanted to love, and I liked it well enough, but just didn't feel right over time. I was able to send it back after 30 days, and have never regretted that decision.
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Hey guys,

Just an update on the test runs. I collected an Orion this morning after work. On my way home i said i would drop into the 'other' LBS and take a look at the Scott CR1 team 11. They fitted the bike for me and put it up on the turbo trainer. I must say I really liked how I felt on it. I just felt comfortable with the size of the bike and my posture.

On the other hand the Orion was only fitted very quicky (2 min). I am just home and I have a touch of flu so I cant take the Orion out yet but as any good man would do I took it out for a quick spin around the neighbourhood coughing and wheezing. I did not feel comfortable at all. I felt way too streched on my back.

I know the Scott CR1 was on a turbo trainer and more time was done dialing me in but would the Orion be that much more agressive in geomtery or could it be down to the little time spent fitting me for the Orion where I would get a better fit if more time was spent. I do seem spot on for a small in a Ridley where I am in the middle of all the criteria for that size frame but I know that doesn't mean it will feel right.

A bit dissapointed (I want to love the Ridley)


I hopefully will take the Orion out tomorrow or at least over the weekend depending on health (just my luck) but I know already that I am way too streached.
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