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AndyK 01-28-13 03:56 PM

Nice frame - looks to be my size too (60-62)??

I voted all black, because black goes nicely with the deep red and smoked chrome. If it was regular bright chrome, all silver would be my choice.

canyoneagle 01-28-13 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 15209167)
Nice frame - looks to be my size too (60-62)??

I voted all black, because black goes niceley with the deep red and smoked chrome. If it was regular bright chrome, all silver would be my choice.

Spot on! It's a 61 c-c, with a 58.5 TT.

RollCNY 01-28-13 07:06 PM

Not that I started with a vintage frame, but I just went through the identical debate and ended up with this on Saturday:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8515/8...c383d332_z.jpg

canyoneagle 01-28-13 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 15209764)
Not that I started with a vintage frame, but I just went through the identical debate and ended up with this on Saturday:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8515/8...c383d332_z.jpg


Nice.
What frame is that?

canam73 01-28-13 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 15210275)
Nice.
What frame is that?

I think it's called a "Tall Boy".

RollCNY 01-29-13 06:15 AM

Nashbar aluminum $69

The chromed steel fork was the same price at the same place. No road time yet so I don't know how that will ride, but I've built other bikes on that frame and it isn't bad.

AndyK 01-29-13 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by canyoneagle (Post 15209231)
Spot on! It's a 61 c-c, with a 58.5 TT.

Sweet. Top tube is a little long for me - I usually like a 57-57.5 TT.

rat fink 01-29-13 12:50 PM

Here are some of the modern builds I've done, for reference:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...98796843_n.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...0/IMG_1245.JPG

With black spokes:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...004_153507.jpg

rat fink 01-29-13 12:57 PM

I think for your frame, I would do:

- black components
- black rims
- silver spokes/hubs
- black or white saddle/bar tape, but they must match each other

thirdgenbird 01-29-13 04:08 PM

I am officially voting all black but with silver spokes, a white saddle, and white bar tape.


Originally Posted by rat fink (Post 15212443)
I think for your frame, I would do:

- black components
- black rims
- silver spokes/hubs
- black or white saddle/bar tape, but they must match each other

I don't think I've seen you in a while. Your schwinn (and grady's tommasini) inspired the colnago I put together on the previous page.

canyoneagle 01-29-13 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 15211718)
Sweet. Top tube is a little long for me - I usually like a 57-57.5 TT.

Same. My optimal TT is 56. I've gone with a 100mm stem (rather than 110-120) and bars with 76mm reach (versus 90 or so), and I think that'll do it.

Ratfink - NICE rides!

I picked the frame up today - I had it at my local framebuilder to get the back end properly set to 130mm (versus Sheldon's 2x4 method). He had a set of the UBI wheels on hand (the same setup I'll probably get), and the shiny brake track REALLY showed me how dark the chrome really is. He and I stood back and looked at it while chatting, and we both agreed that black components would look great on the frame, more so than polished alloy. The black rims looked great, and the stickers weren;t too over the top (I had assumed I would remove them).

I should get the seatpost in the next day or two, so I'll mount it, the saddle, and the bars/stem and snap some pics to help get a sense of how the "black build" might look. I also have a polished stem on hand, and an old plished seatpost that I might throw on for contrast.

canyoneagle 01-29-13 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 15213181)
I am officially voting all black but with silver spokes, a white saddle, and white bar tape.
.


This is right in line with what I'm thinking. seeing that wheel in the frame (black hub, black rim w/machined track, shiny spokes/nipples) really drove it home for me.

thirdgenbird 01-29-13 08:31 PM

I so excited to see this.

AndyK 01-30-13 09:39 AM

Should be a nice looking build!

What height do you normally set your saddle to? We could be size brothers!

canyoneagle 01-30-13 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 15215701)
Should be a nice looking build!

What height do you normally set your saddle to? We could be size brothers!

About 82cm from the BB to top of saddle, give or take a little. I ride 175 cranks (180's if I could get them). Zinn thinks I need 208's. :eek:

You?

MegaTom 01-31-13 01:09 AM

Ultegra SL would look awesome.

Sidney Porter 01-31-13 07:40 AM

For those that are interested in the older frames with newer parts they is a 100 page thread in the C&V section.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...STI-s-or-Ergos

I am currently working on a 1984 Puegeot PGN10 that should end up there in about a week.

triumph.1 01-31-13 11:26 AM

Where is the picture of the real mock up? Come on ya gotta give a dude more than this.........

EnzoRWD 01-31-13 11:36 AM

alloy!

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...19823246_o.jpg

canyoneagle 01-31-13 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by MegaTom (Post 15218883)
Ultegra SL would look awesome.

If only I could take the Ultegra SL finish and put it on the Athena components, I'd be done. I can't get into the SL brifters or crank, sadly. I think the new Shimano brifters are MUCH more tolerable - no more cables coming out of the hoods (yuck) and much prettier than the "antlers" of old.

The black Athena crank has nice charcoal chainrings that would look really nice IMO with the smoked chrome, and the white graphics on the black Athena stuff would tie in pretty well.

Hmmmm...... alloy or black, alloy or black.........

canyoneagle 01-31-13 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by triumph.1 (Post 15220134)
Where is the picture of the real mock up? Come on ya gotta give a dude more than this.........

I have the stem and bars on the frame right now. The black seatpost should be arriving soon (Friday or Saturday), and I'll throw it on with the white/black saddle, and snap some pics.

canyoneagle 01-31-13 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by EnzoRWD (Post 15220199)

Man, that is a stunning bike.
IMO the polished lugs and bright chrome on the Cinelli frame just beg for an alloy group like you've done. My conundrum is the "smoked" chrome and deep red, both of which have elements of black (take a peek at the photo with the closeup of the headtube/fork). The chrome on mine has alot of black in it.

The cool thing is that whichever way I go, I think it'll look great. Hard to go wrong on this one. Here's one that has a different color scheme, different chrome, but is pretty close to one of my build options. Damn nice looking with that alloy, I must say.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Ciocc-Ciocc-S...v9w~~60_57.JPG

canyoneagle 02-02-13 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by triumph.1 (Post 15220134)
Where is the picture of the real mock up? Come on ya gotta give a dude more than this.........

Okay, as requested. Partial mock up with some wheels off of my buddy's '85 Raleigh with GP 4season 25's. The rims are dark grey anodized, but help to give a sense of color. I'd love to be able to strip the graphics from the seat post, but it's not too terrible. The fork close-up helps to give a sense of the alloy hub and ano rim vs. the dark chrome of the fork. Also note how dark the chrome gets (fork) on the other pics.
Bar tape will be white.


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thirdgenbird 02-02-13 07:32 PM

That is some mighty dark chrome.

i still think I am leaning to black, but that black ciocc has me second guessing. Where did you find that?

canyoneagle 02-02-13 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 15229475)
That is some mighty dark chrome.

i still think I am leaning to black, but that black ciocc has me second guessing. Where did you find that?

It's on Ebay right now. Waaaaaaaaaay too small for me, though ;)

Agreed. The chrome is dark - it is more like gunmetal gray, very pretty, especially with that deep red metallic paint.
I really do think I can do no wrong with this, even going with an alloy group and black post/stem would look beautiful. The black is still pulling me, though.


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