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Old 03-05-13, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by E.S.
I see people do this on gran fondo rides at food stops. They fill up on some shiny special sports drink and think "oh this looks cool and it will give me energy/keep me hydrated". Then they wonder why a half hour earlier their stomach hurts.
That must be really shiny special sports drink!

But the advice is sound.
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OMG, the OP's posting had me ROLLING on the floor just now!! I dunno why. I guess it was the way he composed it.
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I just ate 7lbs of ice cream.
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Originally Posted by Nerull
Gaining 7 pounds requires intaking 22400 excess calories. HEED contains 100 calories per scoop, one scoop makes 16 oz of drink. That works out to 28 gallons, or about 233 pounds of liquid.

Gatorade, by the way, has 14g carbs per 8 oz serving. HEED has 13g per 8oz.
It's simpler than that.

The guy is used to Gatorade, which contains lots of simple sugars, sweet, and can't be absorbed in concentrations much higher than 100-120 cal / 24 oz, for reasons which are too complex to discuss here. If he rides a lot and he relies on Gatorade, he tends to be glycogen-depleted most of the time.

He came across HEED, which is made from maltodextrin, much less sweet, and much more readily absorbed. He probably piled it on till he got to the level of sweetness of Gatorade, at which point he had something more similar to syrup than to sports drink.

Drinking that stuff all day, he ingested enormous quantities of malto, which not only cancelled his glycogen loss from the ride, but fully reloaded his glycogen stores for the first time in weeks.

Glycogen is 4 calories per gram of dry weight and each gram of glycogen is bound with 3-4 g of water.

It's still not easy to gain 7 pounds from HEED alone, but, if he had something like 25 scoops total during the event, that's 2500 calories, or 625 g of glycogen, or 6.9 lbs assuming 4:1 water:glycogen ratio.

This is essentially an extreme form of carbohydrate loading. Carbohydrate loading has been shown in studies to result in at least 5 lb glycogen+water gain over a few days, even when done with solid carbohydrates (e.g. pasta). Malto is known to be even more efficient for these purposes than solid carbs.

If this is the case, there is an easy solution. He has to do a DIY century while eating nothing and drinking nothing but water and electrolyte tabs. (I'd bring some food and some gels along in case of a bonk.) By the time he's done, those nasty 7 pounds will be gone. Also, if he manages 100 miles without any on-the-bike calories (a feat that is nearly impossible without carb loading), he'll know that this theory was correct.

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Originally Posted by Ron Harry
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Is there an echo in here??
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Originally Posted by hamster
It's simpler than that.
Really well put. (The whole thing, didn't repost it all)
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Originally Posted by hamster
It's simpler than that.
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This actually makes so much sense that i am wondering what it is doing here.
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Originally Posted by therhodeo
Is there an echo in here??
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Ok boys, I'm sure OP got the message by now, he's barking up the wrong tree.

Party's over, nothing more to see here. Bye!
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