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Lighter alternative to Vittoria Corsa CX?

Old 03-06-13, 01:04 PM
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Lighter alternative to Vittoria Corsa CX?

I've been using the Vittoria Corsa tires for a couple years now and I generally like them very much. Supple, good grip, pretty low rolling resistance, and at least for me fairly durable. But they're 250g per tire...which is a bit heavier than some of the competitions race tires. Are any of the following at least as durable as the Vittoria's?

Conti GP400S
Schwalbe Ultremo ZX
Michelin Pro4 Race (there are several versions, it appears)

Those all seem to be race level tires that are around 50g per tire lighter than the Vittoria's. But are they more puncture prone?

Thanks!
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I've never found the Corsas to be particularly durable. They have good grip but seem to get lots of cuts.

In any case, I wouldn't make a decision on tires based on saving 50g of weight.

GP4000s are $33 at PBK now so that's what I'm buying.
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Originally Posted by gregf83
I've never found the Corsas to be particularly durable. They have good grip but seem to get lots of cuts.

In any case, I wouldn't make a decision on tires based on saving 50g of weight.

GP4000s are $33 at PBK now so that's what I'm buying.
yeah, that's what everyone said about them when i decided to try them. but i've only cut one tire after being unable to avoid a very large, scraggly branch. so you have found the gp4000's more durable? do they seem to roll as fast?
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I think you're looking at the weight for Corsa EVO CX tubulars.

The listed weight for Open Corsa EVO CX is 204 grams and Competitive Cyclist has it at 210 grams actual.

The lsited weight for Corsa EVO CX tubulars is 250 grams, and CC has that at 241 grams actual, which is very light considering that also includes the tube (thus the equivalent of a clincher weighing about 180grams).
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Originally Posted by teamtrinity
yeah, that's what everyone said about them when i decided to try them. but i've only cut one tire after being unable to avoid a very large, scraggly branch. so you have found the gp4000's more durable? do they seem to roll as fast?
Measured rolling tests show they have similar rolling resistance. They are far to close for you to feel unless you perform very carefully controlled tests.

The corsas seem to wear similarly to PRO3s as long as you don't get a big puncture that requires a boot. I buy them if I get a good deal on them. I got 6,200km out of the last Corsa I had on the rear. I think I got about 9,000 last time I used GP4000s.

I think Merlin is correct on the weights as PBK lists both tires at a similar weight.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I think you're looking at the weight for Corsa EVO CX tubulars.

The listed weight for Open Corsa EVO CX is 204 grams and Competitive Cyclist has it at 210 grams actual.

The lsited weight for Corsa EVO CX tubulars is 250 grams, and CC has that at 241 grams actual, which is very light considering that also includes the tube (thus the equivalent of a clincher weighing about 180grams).
oh my gracious...i just checked. you are right. i've thought my tires were heavier than they are for the past who knows how long. oops! lol guess i'll stick with my corsa's as they've been good for me! thanks!
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I just weighed a new set of Vredestein Fortezza Comp at 217 grams each. this has become my favorite and replaced Conti 4000 and Michelin Pros as my go to clincher. you'll find almost universally good reviews AFAIK.
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Veloflex Open 23 is 195 +/-10%. Actual weight for mine are ~198g.
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Originally Posted by blacksquid
Veloflex Open 23 is 195 +/-10%. Actual weight for mine are ~198g.
I had a set of Veloflex Record Open's...very light...VERY supple...and OMG did they roll fast!!!! But so fragile...really pathetic in that department.
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My vittoria open corsa are 210. My attack/force is 190 and 192.
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Originally Posted by blacksquid
Veloflex Open 23 is 195 +/-10%. Actual weight for mine are ~198g.
I use these tires. They are light, supple and fast. They are about as durable as the Vittorias that I had previously used.
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