Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

All I wanted was a tune up.

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

All I wanted was a tune up.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-12-13, 09:44 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 548

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
All I wanted was a tune up.

So I am looking to upgrade my bike which is a CAAD8-6. It got me started into road biking and has taken me from the D-C groups to A&A+ and into my first races. It's been a great bike but I'd like something new. My budget is around $2k after selling my current bike. Not really that much but I think I can get a pretty decent bike for that price. I am interested in a racing/aggressive geo bike since that's where I'm at. I'm currently training to have more success in racing and have a lot of interest in it, so comfort and all that isn't important to me. Also, there's no climbs where I live so take that as you will. I'm still a newbie so carbon flexing, stiff/compliant, and power transfer in frames is foreign to me. Don't really know how to judge that in a parking lot test ride.

At the top of my list is the Supersix, which is fits quite nicely into what I'm looking for. The shop which gave me the best deal for it just started stocking Focus bikes aswell. I was just looking at the new inventory when I stumbled upon the Focus Cayo Evo 6.0. I really liked the design and was drawn to it immediately. There isn't that much info about it but I've read good things. I'm also assuming that at this price point, frames aren't going to be drastically different in terms of how they perform.

Opinions?

Edit: The thread title was supposed to be "Supersix vs Focus Evo Cayo. Don't know why it says "All I wanted was a tune up"

Last edited by cvall91; 03-12-13 at 09:56 AM.
cvall91 is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 09:57 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Jandro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,059
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
CAAD10 with Force/Red hits that budget and is an amazing race bike.
__________________
Attack in the feeling because it says I'll win absolutely.
Jandro is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:02 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
rangerdavid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boone, North Carolina
Posts: 5,094

Bikes: 2009 Cannondale CAAD9-6 2014 Trek Domaine 5.9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jandro
CAAD10 with Force/Red hits that budget and is an amazing race bike.

I agree. I'm on a CAAD9 with full Red, and as many times as I've had the
'wants', i can't get a better all around bike. Plus, if you race it and crash it's not as expensive as a carbon frame bike.
rangerdavid is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:04 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Jandro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,059
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by rangerdavid
Plus, if you race it and crash it's not as expensive as a carbon frame bike.
+1.

OP, sounds like you are new to racing. I would not advise racing in the early categories with a new carbon frame and besides, the CAAD10 will be lighter, stiffer, and better than any carbon frame at the same price point.
__________________
Attack in the feeling because it says I'll win absolutely.
Jandro is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:10 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 548

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Jandro
CAAD10 with Force/Red hits that budget and is an amazing race bike.
I tried a SS with rival and I just did not like Sram at all. Maybe I didn't give it much of a chance, but I wasn't too fond of it. And also my budget is low 2k so $2,700 would be out of it. Shimano 105 seems like the best bet, maybe a CAAD10 Ultegra. The shop where I'm looking at is giving me a great trade in deal, so I'm sticking with them. After trading in my bike, I have to pay the difference of $1,100 for the '13 Supersix-5 which I think is pretty good. Don't know the math behind it though.
cvall91 is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:10 AM
  #6  
Fixie Infamous
 
Nagrom_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SF
Posts: 10,474

Bikes: 2007 CAAD Optimo Track, 2012 Cannondale CAAD10, 1996 GT Force restomod, 2015 Cannondale CAADX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
+1 for CAAD10 Force. I'm glad I'm not riding something else. Great bike.


If you don't like SRAM, try the CAAD10 3 ultegra.
Nagrom_ is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:12 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 548

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rangerdavid
I agree. I'm on a CAAD9 with full Red, and as many times as I've had the
'wants', i can't get a better all around bike. Plus, if you race it and crash it's not as expensive as a carbon frame bike.
Yea that's one of my worries, but I'm hard headed and just assume it won't happen to me. My friend got involved in a big pile up and his carbon frame cracked in half. But the 10+ other riders on carbon frames only had minor scratches.
cvall91 is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:13 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 635

Bikes: CAAD10 5, Trek 1000 Alpha Series

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
don't sell the caad8. i'd keep it as a trainer/rainy day ride
aquateen is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:25 AM
  #9  
pan y agua
 
merlinextraligh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 31,302

Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1447 Post(s)
Liked 724 Times in 371 Posts
One question is how well the Cdale fits you. If it fits well then there would be a case with staying with C'dale (assuming the CAAD 10, and Supersix have the same geometry and sizing as the CAAD -8)
__________________
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
merlinextraligh is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:31 AM
  #10  
LDB
Senior Member
 
LDB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: greater Houston
Posts: 257
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cvall91
Yea that's one of my worries, but I'm hard headed and just assume it won't happen to me. My friend got involved in a big pile up and his carbon frame cracked in half. But the 10+ other riders on carbon frames only had minor scratches.
"But Dad, my friend Billy jumped off that roof 37 times without breaking his leg and I only jumped once.", said the kid in the ER getting a cast on his broken leg.
LDB is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 10:48 AM
  #11  
SuperGimp
 
TrojanHorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Whittier, CA
Posts: 13,346

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 147 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1107 Post(s)
Liked 64 Times in 47 Posts
I saw some 2012 supersix 105s in my area for roughly 1400-1500... if you can find some older stock you can make your budget dollar go further.
TrojanHorse is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 11:01 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 548

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by aquateen
don't sell the caad8. i'd keep it as a trainer/rainy day ride
n=1 for me.

Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
One question is how well the Cdale fits you. If it fits well then there would be a case with staying with C'dale (assuming the CAAD 10, and Supersix have the same geometry and sizing as the CAAD -8)
Well the CAAD8 has a more relaxed geometry than the SS and CAAD10 which have more of the same racing geo. At the new shop, I was told my current bike is big on me and they recommended a 54 over my current 56. I think my current bike fits fine, but when I decide, they have a large inventory so sizing won't be an issue.

I like Cannondale's so that's why it's my first option. But this is the only shop I've seen that stocks Focus in my area so there aren't a lot of them on the road. As compared to Cannondale's which take up at least half of any group ride. Everyone seems to be leaning towards the CAAD10 but the '13 colors are just so bleh to me. Which is why the Focus really grabbed my attention. It's a nice looking bike and the internal routing is very clean. I always hear CAAD10's are perfect for crits though so I will check them out the next time I go. I might end up loving it more than the others.

Last edited by cvall91; 03-12-13 at 11:06 AM.
cvall91 is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 11:04 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 548

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
I saw some 2012 supersix 105s in my area for roughly 1400-1500... if you can find some older stock you can make your budget dollar go further.
Cheapest 2012 105 I've seen is 1800 here. And I'm getting the '13 in basically 2012 discount pricing.
cvall91 is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 01:37 PM
  #14  
gc3
Falls Downalot
 
gc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 3,103

Bikes: Now I Got Two

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cvall91
....But this is the only shop I've seen that stocks Focus in my area so there aren't a lot of them on the road. As compared to Cannondale's which take up at least half of any group ride. Everyone seems to be leaning towards the CAAD10 but the '13 colors are just so bleh to me.....
Once you start down this path of quasi-exclusivity, you can never go back. You've been warned!

If the Focus rides/fits well for you, they're fine bikes for the money.
gc3 is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 01:43 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
If you like the components on your caad 8, why not strip it, sell the frame and use the components on a frame you like Then you can use the difference in price towards new wheels or partially towards a power meter.

You can get a caad 9 frame on ebay for around $300-$400. With the left over $1600 you could also pick up a quarq power meter (with money left over). A caad 10 wouldn't be much more.

Just a thought.
AMFJ is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 04:31 PM
  #16  
Hills hurt.. Couches kill
 
RacerOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brazil, IN
Posts: 3,370

Bikes: 1991 Specialized Sirrus Triple, 2010 Trek Madone 6.5 Project One, 2012 Cannondale Caad10, 2013 Trek Crockett

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
CAAD10, it really is the perfect bike for what you want to do.
RacerOne is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 04:42 PM
  #17  
VFL For Life
 
Velo Vol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 51,218

Bikes: Velo Volmobile

Mentioned: 780 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28608 Post(s)
Liked 1,856 Times in 1,318 Posts
You can learn to tune it up yourself watching videos.
__________________
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
People here don't get it.
Velo Vol is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 04:44 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 88

Bikes: CAAD10, Trek 7.3

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cvall91
n=1 for me.
...
Don't forget that the "formula" is n+1, so with n=1 it resolves to two. Guess you have to keep the CAAD8 after all.
richfell is offline  
Old 03-12-13, 05:25 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 61

Bikes: 2006 Specialized Allez Elite E5 SLX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm gonna disagree with all here and weigh in with the specialized allez
hfinstrom is offline  
Old 03-13-13, 06:10 AM
  #20  
Semper Fi
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,942
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 358 Times in 241 Posts
I'm in the CAAD 10 school of thought, get the best build level your budget allows, make some good wheels your forst upgrade goal and then log lots of miles and races. Best of luck in your choosing and in your races.

Bill
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977

I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13


qcpmsame is offline  
Old 03-13-13, 07:05 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 548

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by qcpmsame
I'm in the CAAD 10 school of thought, get the best build level your budget allows, make some good wheels your forst upgrade goal and then log lots of miles and races. Best of luck in your choosing and in your races.

Bill
Yea, everyone has voted towards the CAAD10 and no one in favor of the other bikes. I'm going to go into the shop and check out the Ultegra one and see what kind of deal I can get. I've always wanted the 10 but now that I can actually afford it, the 2012 colors are all gone. I want to end up with a bike that I truly like rather than what's better in case I crash. I'm going to ride them the same regardless, but I'll ride happier if it's on a bike I like.
cvall91 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wsuhoops1000
Cyclocross and Gravelbiking (Recreational)
2
03-24-13 08:24 PM
wacomme
Road Cycling
9
12-18-12 12:52 PM
goose70
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing
19
09-17-12 09:53 AM
AndySchleckfan
Road Cycling
35
03-26-11 08:06 AM
dooodstevenn
Road Cycling
39
06-13-10 08:56 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.