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Hitchy 11-18-04 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
And BINGO WAS HIS NAME, OH!! :D


...ahh.... so now we know what you're doing when you 'tell' us you're out on the bike....watching play school....or listening to SEN!....BTW, no email turned up here from last night.....

hitchy

Hitchy 11-18-04 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
harharhar Aussie.

Speaking of useless dribble: "The Aussie Thread" has 2351 posts. This seemed like a lot so I did some checkin. There's only one thread with more useless info in it on the whole bikeforums site. It name? "How was that commute?" with about 6600 posts!!!


awww c'mon...we are the 'Seinfeld' of threads.....the thread about nothing!...wonder what the seppo's think about it?.....with 17,000 odd views....someones lookin'

hitchy

531Aussie 11-18-04 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Thylacine
Unlike my personal journey of 'fit', this theory has absolutely no research put into it, so it's just a seat of the pants observation. heh.

Anyone care to comment or should we just talk about beer and cricket? :p
)

Hmmmm, I thought Kennedy set you up. Don't tell me you altered things. UMMAAR! :)

I'd be very intereseted in your detailed view of his setup.


Many moons ago I persisted with alternate positions because a few older, influential guys at
Carnegie (Cycling Club) basically said I was a d1ckhead for not doing so. Dunno, maybe
I didn't persist long enough, but I found other positions pretty much horrible, and thought:
"fukk 'em all, I'll do what I want." SO, I really think I gave the local "experts" a chance.

rockmuncher 11-18-04 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Hitchy
awww c'mon...we are the 'Seinfeld' of threads.....the thread about nothing!...wonder what the seppo's think about it?.....with 17,000 odd views....someones lookin'
hitchy

:roflmao: the Seinfield of threads.

Ok everybody, put on your worst Barney the Dinosaur costume and sing along:

There was a farmer had a dog,

And Bingo was his name-o.
B-I-N-G-O!
B-I-N-G-O!
B-I-N-G-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!
There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap)-I-N-G-O!
(Clap)-I-N-G-O!
(Clap)-I-N-G-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap)-N-G-O!
(Clap, clap)-N-G-O!
(Clap, clap)-N-G-O! And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap, clap)-G-O!
(Clap, clap, clap)-G-O!
(Clap, clap, clap)-G-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap, clap, clap)-O!
(Clap, clap, clap, clap)-O!
(Clap, clap, clap, clap)-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)
(Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)
(Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)
And Bingo was his name-o!


Can I get back to reality now pleeeeeze? :)

Hitchy 11-18-04 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
:roflmao: the Seinfield of threads.

Ok everybody, put on your worst Barney the Dinosaur costume and sing along:

There was a farmer had a dog,

And Bingo was his name-o.
B-I-N-G-O!
B-I-N-G-O!
B-I-N-G-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!
There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap)-I-N-G-O!
(Clap)-I-N-G-O!
(Clap)-I-N-G-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap)-N-G-O!
(Clap, clap)-N-G-O!
(Clap, clap)-N-G-O! And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap, clap)-G-O!
(Clap, clap, clap)-G-O!
(Clap, clap, clap)-G-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap, clap, clap)-O!
(Clap, clap, clap, clap)-O!
(Clap, clap, clap, clap)-O!
And Bingo was his name-o!

There was a farmer had a dog,
And Bingo was his name-o.
(Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)
(Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)
(Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap)
And Bingo was his name-o!


Can I get back to reality now pleeeeeze? :)



........things are slow in Gosford right now folks........(ok...slower than usual!)

Hitchy

531Aussie 11-18-04 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Hitchy
...ahh.... so now we know what you're doing when you 'tell' us you're out on the bike....watching play school....or listening to SEN!..hitchy

.. I stole that off Geneman :(

That reminds me (dunno why), some of my favourite user names are:
"User Name", "herefishyfishy", and "diddidit"



Originally Posted by Hitchy
...
BTW, no email turned up here from last night.....

hitchy

Ah, dunno what happened with that email. :(

531Aussie 11-18-04 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
:roflmao: the Seinfield of threads.

Ok everybody, put on your worst Barney the Dinosaur costume and sing along:

:)

Hmmmm, your theories are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter..

I stole THAT of Homer SImpson

rockmuncher 11-18-04 07:49 PM

Looks like the Kiwis have learned how to bat again. 9/327, last wicket partnership is approaching 60, and Oram has just got his century.

badsac 11-18-04 07:52 PM

Warnes a pie thrower. :mad:

rockmuncher 11-18-04 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by badsac
Warnes a pie thrower. :mad:

Oram's smashing the crap out of Gillespie and Kasper since he made his ton .2641. .661.

badsac 11-18-04 08:00 PM

Gah. I can't get the webpage to update anymore. Don't know why it always seems like opposing teams can smash us around at the end, but unless it's Gillespie hanging around, we're *****. :(

531Aussie 11-18-04 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by HobartDave
I sent the message below to Hitchy, but I thought I might throw it out in the open to see if I can get some more info.

I'll be going in my first TT on the 30th. I'm pretty used to the course but I haven't ever raced in any form before. It's a 7km hill climb that climbs about 100m in the last 2km's. Hope you don't mind me asking.

Sorry, Hobart Dave, I've been mulling for a while. I assume "the 30th" means this month, so you've
obviously only got 10 days prep. If it were me, I'd still be trying to improve my fitness, even though
there's such a short time to go.

I don't have any highly structured "prologue" training programs, so I'd probably try to get in at least
3 or 4 murderous rides in (on alternate days) which include doing the course (after a good warmup) almost flat out, then doing half a dozen flat-out intervals of probably 1 to 3 mins.......????

THat's the best I can do at short notice :)

531Aussie 11-18-04 08:36 PM

speaking of funny (well, we are now), did you guys see this "New Road Thread Needed" thread a while ago?
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ghlight=thread


I ACTUALLY laughed out loud at a few of the posts, which is unusual for me. :(

There was a bit of a "Python": "ooh, that's loooxery" thing going on.

I only included my post below so the subsequent post make more sense. :)



Originally Posted by boyze
Anyone know where I can get inconel 718 steel toothed chain rings? I ruined another big ring by stripping the teeth clean off while doing wind sprints up the side of my neighbors barn. Darn wimparse aluminum. Can I get rings in that new fancy carbon stuff :p


Originally Posted by Dave Moulton
I remember back in the old days we couldn't afford cycling shoes, so we nailed the cleats directly to our bare feet. ;)


Originally Posted by catatonic
pedals.....PEDALS.....what the ____?
We don't need no steeking pedals!!!!
Heck, I managed to pull a century last week by merely throwing my bike in a radom direction, and running after it. HA!


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Bike?!?!?!?! You mean a whole bike???!!!???!! :eek:

All I had was a set of cranks, half a pair of handle bars, 11 spokes, and a bottle cage!!!
No frame, no wheels...NOTHIN'

See how fast you could go then, Mr la di da on his whole bike!!


Originally Posted by Xtrmyorick
What's this metal you speak of? I ride a rock


Originally Posted by zensuit
That's fine, but after you EAT half the rock at the first sag, how do you finish the ride?

Ah, well, I thought it was funny........BOOM bloody BOOM

rockmuncher 11-18-04 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
speaking of funny (well, we are now), did you guys see this "New Road Thread Needed" thread a while ago?
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ghlight=thread

Stop making me laugh at werk ya bastard. Man, it's very hard to explain stuff to the boss when you've got tears running down your face and the stupid "I'm trying hard not to laugh" expression on you face.

Hitchy 11-18-04 09:37 PM

I love that old Pythoun sketch, what is it called, "three yorkshiremen"? or something. its up there with my all time favorites "the parrot sketch" & that one about the one legged bloke who applies for the job of superman or tarzan or something in a film. Also the 'argument sketch.......What about Derek & clives..."the worst job I ever had....."?
classics...or maybe I'm just a sick bastard!

hitchy

HobartDave 11-18-04 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Sorry, Hobart Dave, I've been mulling for a while. I assume "the 30th" means this month, so you've
obviously only got 10 days prep. If it were me, I'd still be trying to improve my fitness, even though
there's such a short time to go.

I don't have any highly structured "prologue" training programs, so I'd probably try to get in at least
3 or 4 murderous rides in (on alternate days) which include doing the course (after a good warmup) almost flat out, then doing half a dozen flat-out intervals of probably 1 to 3 mins.......????

THat's the best I can do at short notice :)

Thanks 531,
Any advice is appreciated. Sorry about the short notice. I hadn't intended to compete on the bike this year, but one of my work mates said this was a pretty relaxed kind of event, and should be a good introduction. I figured it can't hurt to have a go.

Thanks,
Dave

531Aussie 11-18-04 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by HobartDave
Thanks 531,
Any advice is appreciated. Sorry about the short notice. I hadn't intended to compete on the bike this year, but one of my work mates said this was a pretty relaxed kind of event, and should be a good introduction. I figured it can't hurt to have a go.

Are you heavy?

If you watch the Tour de France, you've probably noticed that the big guys, even though
they're very lean, pretty much disappear on any sort of climb. In my opinion, hills are almost
a totally different sport that riding on the flats.

I'm a fat slob "at the moment", at 89kg, and although I can "dust off" a lot of guys on the
flats, when I see the same guys on a hill ride, I have to kill myself to match their speed.

How's all that for stating the bleeding obvious??!!? :D

HobartDave 11-18-04 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Are you heavy?

If you watch the Tour de France, you've probably noticed that the big guys, even though
they're very lean, pretty much disappear on any sort of climb. In my opinion, hills are almost
a totally different sport that riding on the flats.

I'm a fat slob "at the moment", at 89kg, and although I can "dust off" a lot of guys on the
flats, when I see the same guys on a hill ride, I have to kill myself to match their speed.

How's all that for stating the bleeding obvious??!!? :D

Absolutely bleeding obvious :) But I could try to loose a couple of Kilo's before then. I'm 180cm and hover around the 80kg mark. So not huge, but could easily loose some of the spare tyre around the guts. I'll have dropped about 5-6kg off my bike by taking away the rack and panniers full of work gear and shoes, so hopefully that'll make a difference. I'm pretty used to the hill in low gears, as it's part of my commute home from work.

rockmuncher 11-18-04 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
If you watch the Tour de France, you've probably noticed that the big guys, even though they're very lean, pretty much disappear on any sort of climb. In my opinion, hills are almost
a totally different sport that riding on the flats.

A side-note from yesterday's RBR newsletter: "CSC pro Jens Voight churned out more than 400 watts for 40+ minutes during the time trial up l’Alpe d’Huez. That’s a whopping 6.16 watts per kilogram of bodyweight. But that phenomenal power output earned him only 60th place in the stage."

Jeeeezuz Chriiiist!!! (use you best Mr Slave impersonation)

Rowan 11-18-04 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by HobartDave
Absolutely bleeding obvious :) But I could try to loose a couple of Kilo's before then. I'm 180cm and hover around the 80kg mark. So not huge, but could easily loose some of the spare tyre around the guts. I'll have dropped about 5-6kg off my bike by taking away the rack and panniers full of work gear and shoes, so hopefully that'll make a difference. I'm pretty used to the hill in low gears, as it's part of my commute home from work.

Take it easy from the start. Spending all your dollars on the first uphill and where it flattens out won't do you any good at all. Probably spin rather than mash through to where the bike lane starts. You'll also probably have a seabreeze to contend with (the northerlies/westerlies are likely to blow out by then).

The rise up past Taroona High School is deceptive and can also give you the false sense that you should surge, especially as it comes straight after that little downhill. If you get to the Taroona pub and the first time check without spending all your dollars (your breathing rate is Ok and you don't hear your heart throbbing wildly in your ears, start getting into it for the uphill past the Shot Tower. Try to stay on the *outside* of corners (depends on traffic).

The straight after the Shot Tower is either a bit of a recovery stretch or a chance to surge the speed up a bit. After the last hairpin, you've got about 300 metres left, and if you've got even one dollar left in bank, now is the time to spend it and go into debt (anaerobically). If you do, you'll probably feel like puking when you get to the finish just before the crest, and if you go over the top to spin the lactic acid out of your legs, remember you've got to pedal back up again to get your time (otherwise just keep on coasting down to Kingston and get your time when Pimmy posts it on the atta site).

Warm-up before the start is good. You'll probably get a bit of a one by riding from work, but a climb or two up Wayne Ave and back around Churchill Ave past Alexandra Battery might be helpful. You'll probably post a reasonable time against other TT novices from last year -- the resurfacing of the Channel Highway is inevitably going to make things a bit faster.

And don't get too demoralised if you see Sid, Pete and some of the other hotshots, including a few women, go past like you're standing still uphill past the Shot Tower. Sid did the Longley-Pinnacle Time Trial early this year in 53 minutes and passed a car going up.

This is your first TT and you want a time that you *know* you can improve on a fortnight later. Breaking 20 minutes would be a good start.

FWIW

Hitchy 11-18-04 11:29 PM

.......the prodigal Rowan returns!......where you been?.....we were starting to think we weren't good enough for you!....your punishment is to read every post to this thread since your last post....(you'll find you've missed absolutely nuffin! :D)....'cept saccy's got a bike with a 'dork' disc! & kept his knackers as well!

Hitchy

Rowan 11-18-04 11:38 PM

Finished the Mallee Routes 400 in Vicko in something like 22 hours. Great ride, pretty flat, and excellent support (read, food) by the country people who organised it.

Finished the Classic 200 in Perth in around 12 hours (b-ugger of a headwind for 75% of the ride, and the Perth hills are surprisingly like ours -- tough).

Finished the Great Southern 1200 with 17 minutes to spare under the 90-hour time limit and survived the 100km/h southerly buster that came through on 26 November -- horizontal rain stinging like hell, and the guy I was riding with got blown right across the road and into a ditch!

Finished the Opperman One-Day Trial with a total mileage of 383km in 24 hours. Oh and yeah, and before all that, finished a 300km toughie in Tassie three days after dislocating and breaking my right shoulder.

All I have to do is finish the Giro Tasmania 1000 in January and I'm qualified for the international Randonneur 5000 medal.

And, I have kept a little in touch with you lot and your occasional run-ins with the Super Med. Hope saccy gets his bike fit worked out (and disposed of the disc, although I know from experience what it's like to overshift and wipe out nine spokes in one pedal stroke).

Also see there are a few new snouts in the trough. Welcome!

HobartDave 11-19-04 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Rowan
Take it easy from the start. Spending all your dollars on the first uphill and where it flattens out won't do you any good at all. Probably spin rather than mash through to where the bike lane starts. You'll also probably have a seabreeze to contend with (the northerlies/westerlies are likely to blow out by then).

The rise up past Taroona High School is deceptive and can also give you the false sense that you should surge, especially as it comes straight after that little downhill. If you get to the Taroona pub and the first time check without spending all your dollars (your breathing rate is Ok and you don't hear your heart throbbing wildly in your ears, start getting into it for the uphill past the Shot Tower. Try to stay on the *outside* of corners (depends on traffic).

The straight after the Shot Tower is either a bit of a recovery stretch or a chance to surge the speed up a bit. After the last hairpin, you've got about 300 metres left, and if you've got even one dollar left in bank, now is the time to spend it and go into debt (anaerobically). If you do, you'll probably feel like puking when you get to the finish just before the crest, and if you go over the top to spin the lactic acid out of your legs, remember you've got to pedal back up again to get your time (otherwise just keep on coasting down to Kingston and get your time when Pimmy posts it on the atta site).

Warm-up before the start is good. You'll probably get a bit of a one by riding from work, but a climb or two up Wayne Ave and back around Churchill Ave past Alexandra Battery might be helpful. You'll probably post a reasonable time against other TT novices from last year -- the resurfacing of the Channel Highway is inevitably going to make things a bit faster.

And don't get too demoralised if you see Sid, Pete and some of the other hotshots, including a few women, go past like you're standing still uphill past the Shot Tower. Sid did the Longley-Pinnacle Time Trial early this year in 53 minutes and passed a car going up.

This is your first TT and you want a time that you *know* you can improve on a fortnight later. Breaking 20 minutes would be a good start.

FWIW

Thanks Rowan,
I've managed about 19 minutes with a rack and panniers on my bike, so I'd hope to get somewhere around 18 minutes without them. I've heard there are some pretty great riders that do these TT's. I don't expect too much, I've only had the bike about 4 months. Should be fun, I hope :rolleyes:

Thylacine 11-19-04 01:29 AM

Rowan, what exactly IS the attraction of riding so much in 24hrs that your arse is one big open wound? I understand the 'challenge' part, but the pain must put you into a whole other world of...errr..........what? Delirium? Stupor?

What's the Radonneur attraction?

Rowan 11-19-04 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by Thylacine
Rowan, what exactly IS the attraction of riding so much in 24hrs that your arse is one big open wound? I understand the 'challenge' part, but the pain must put you into a whole other world of...errr..........what? Delirium? Stupor?

What's the Radonneur attraction?

Pain? What pain? As a frame builder you should know that fit is everything. And a well broken-in Brooks B17 saddle helps a lot, along with quality shorts. But it has taken a l-o-n-g time to set up the off-the-shelf Fuji Touring frame. After the 1200, hardly any arse soreness -- just a bit of bruising from the lousy road surfaces Vicko has. Had more trouble from my ITB than anything else, and that was to do with a pedal cleat that was done up too tight (long story and too complicated to explain here).

Anyway, LD riding is an acquired taste for the older members of the cycling generation. You probably don't really "get it" until you are over the age of 40, or maybe 45. And I get to see things I would not have seen before -- Paris to Brest, the Mallee country, a reminder of the Perth hills, and of course, the Great Ocean Rd and Grampians in a far more intimate way!


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