Patriot

Anyone take out a mortgage and get one of the new ones yet? Just curious.

880g, for a full carbon frame. That is somewhat agreeable to my palate.

Yummy.

Brett 12

I'm keeping eyes peeled on Ebay.........saw one in Dec, but it went for a little too much money.

Scott CR1....it would make a nice CF "grenade" bike. Throw on some 199 gram handlebars too...LOL.

Definition of "grenade": Something extremely fast that would wouldn't want to ride everyday.

55/Rad

Could be my next project. When I went looking for my latest frame - the Tete - the CR-1 wasn't a viable option. That's how long it has been.

I can see selling the Trek to make this work in a year or so. But by then, there'll probably be something else to drool over.

55/Rad

skydive69

Great bike, and great looking. I test rode one a few months ago. LBS just got a second one in - the other one sold. Incredible acceleration - light as a feather.

Brett 12

How strong is the CR1...any problems with it.

I call it a "grenade" not because I really think it is weak...more so becasue it is rediclously light and fast.

But you always have to wonder whenever you are dealing with really light stuff.

Those 199 gram 3T less aluminum handlebars for example. I would never keep those on for more than 1-2 years.

skydive69

I do have to wonder about the strength when the co-owner of the shop opined that he would probably break the bike. I rode it on a windy day, and I was getting blown all over the road.

pinky

I sincerely doubt the weight of the bike has anything to do with you getting blown about the road. CR1 is a race bike, that said I'm pretty sure it passed the big stress test that companies are so quick to trumpet about. If you want scary light, how bout the new TCR Advanced? 799 grams and it has an extended seat post

forum*rider

isn't the CR1 supposed to be one of the stronger CF frames on the market? Thats what one of the mechanics at the lbs told me when we were chatting about his new bike.

ultra-g

This guy Oscar bought a Scott CR1 from Gotham Bikes and he loves it.

He did have a problem one day with the handlebars slipping, so Ish#1 at Gotham put in a shim for him and he's had no problems after that.

I rode one night with Oscar in Central Park, me on my Langster and he on the CR1, I thought I was going to die, he was killing me.

It seriously is a light f--cking bike, when I picked up the frameset to check it out I was afraid I would break it, it seemed so fragile, but it is supposed to be a strong frame.

skydive69

Probably true, but I had never experienced anything like that before or since, and my Roubaix Pro is not exactly a heavy weight.

Moonshot

Maybe it was the wheels?

skydive69

Could have been. I first saw the CR1 at a bike shop in Seattle last summer when I was on vacation, and immediately fell in love with it. When I got home, I found the local Scott dealer, and immediately arranged for a test ride.

MacMan

The owner is a moron. The CR1 is one of the strongest frames on the market:
https://www.efbe.de/erenn.htm

skydive69

I'm not sure an ex bike pro is a moron, but then again there are so many wise people here on this board. LOL

mossd

A friend of mine and I each just ordered one. Bought the low end with 105, will ebay the components and rebuild. Don't know if I'm supposed to mention prices, but my LBS sold to me for $1950 out the door. Hoping to sell everything but frame, fork and headset for $500-$700 on ebay, which will make frame about $1250-$1450. I was told by Scott that the low end CR1 was about 100 grams more than the team issue, but Scott doesn't sell the low end CR1 as frameset alone. My LBS was not pushing the Scott CR1 because the warranty was 30 days on frame. Now Scott has improved warranty to 5 years on frame and 3 on fork. Crash replacement on frame is $500 and that is for the team issue frame replacement! Also was told by Scott that there is no weight limit on frameset. I test rode the frame in an XXL and my 210 lbs couldn't begin to flex the frame.

MacMan

Unless he stated that he could break the bike with a hammer, he's a moron. I suppose if an ex pro told you sitting in the oven at 400 degrees for an hour a day was good for you, you'd believe it as well

Smoothie104

A team mate of mine just got his, 10speed Dura ace, kysrium SSC's etc... Lightest bike I've picked up in a while, if he puts some carbon tubulars on it, he can save another 400 grams... wild.

dolophonic

That is a very tasty bike...shame the stickers are all in bright yellow !

cjfulham

I'm going back to the States to pick mine up in March. I test rode the Team Issue here and I'd ridden it in Atlanta before I left last year. Unbelievably light and it's really stable going down hill. There's a new review at www.cyclingnews.com and www.pezcyclingnews.com has a review from late last year. I've got two friends in Georgia with the Scott. Both swear by it and one of them bought another one as a backup. He got rid of his Madone for his second CR1. I'm not sure I'm onboard with all of the decals, but it is a great looking bike.

https://www.scottusa.com/product.php?UID=5840

Brett 12

Team Issue is Nothing compared to the Limited Model....Check this out!


https://www.scottusa.com/product.php?UID=5839

I like how all the Scott's have the fine quality CF weave in them.

auk

An alternative, is the Limited version that does away with the yellow decals and has more subtle silver/grey. The weave is a bit better too. But, as the name implies, limited availability. One of these days......

Brett 12

The other CR-1's don't have yellow decal either. The 105 model would be intetresting, probably the cheapest way to get the frame is just to get that one and Ebay off the components. Then again you could ride it too. 105 isn't bad at all really.

I have a link to the limited in my other post.

The Centaur one appears to have no weaknesses.......Centaur and Mavic Kysrium Elites.

Phatman

the reason you were probably getting blown around was due to the steering geometry on the scott versus the roubaix. remember, the roubaix is designed to handle really stable and the scott is designed to to turn a bit quicker since its meant to be a race bike.

just a thought.

and that bike is dead sexy.

nbf

This is german magazine "Tour"s test of the light carbon bikes this year. Last year CR1 was the recordholder for highest stiffness to weight ever measured, but as you can see they have been overtaken by many cheaper german brands this year. The walues are overall testpoints, weight frame, fork weight , stiffness headtube, stiffness BB, stiffness fork and finally stiffness to weight value.

1. Canyon Carbon F10: 75pts, 997g, 332g, 100Nm/°, 129Nm/°, 55N/mm, 100,3Nm/kg
2. Red Bull Carbon SL: 64pts, 1025g, 480g, 95Nm/°, 104Nm/°, 35N/mm,92,7Nm/kg
3. Scott CR-1 Limited: 62pts, 925g, 393g, 84Nm/°, 101Nm/°, 43N/mm, 90,8Nm/kg
3. Stevens SCF 1: 62pts, 985g, 392g, 73Nm/°, 96Nm/°, 40N/mm, 74,1 Nm/kg
5. Time VXRS Module: 61pts, 1044g, 344g, 63Nm/°, 91Nm/°, 50N/mm, 60,4 Nm/kg
6. Cube Litening GTC: 59pts, 1098g, 384g, 84Nm/°, 94Nm/°, 38N/mm, 76,5 Nm/kg
6. Isaac Impulse: 59pts, 1030g, 385g, 75Nm/°, 93Nm/°, 38N/mm, 72,8Nm/kg
8. Look 585: 58pts, 1052g, 322g, 66Nm/°, 92Nm/°, 42N/mm, 62,7Nm/kg
8. Storck Scenario CD 1.0: 58pts, 1073g, 427g, 87Nm/°, 104Nm/°, 46N/mm, 81,7Nm/kg
10. Wilier Le Roi: 55pts, 1042g, 392g, 81Nm/°, 105Nm/°, 34N/mm, 77,7Nm/kg,
11. Giant TCR Composite: 53pts, 1100g, 380g, 56Nm, 101Nm, --, 50,9 Nm/kg, --
12. Giant TCR Advanced: 61pts, 1030g, 360g, 67Nm, 86Nm, --, 65,1Nm/kg, --
13. Scott CR-1 Pro: 64pts, 943g, 451g, 83Nm, 106Nm, --, 88,0Nm/kg, --

The Giants are aparently as stiff as overcooked spaghetti.

ShinyBaldy

Only problem is the Tour magazine is about as objective as Baghdad Bob... plus, it tries to quantify the unquatifiable. Stiffness is relative to the rider - a bone shattering frame can easily be made by any manufacturer, just get large diameter steel tubing and you can make a frame stiffer than any carbon or alum frame. But no one in their right minds does that. The best way is to just ride the bike and see if you like its characteristics, some will be too stiff - others will be too flexy. But numbers are meaningless because the data has no signficance. Past a certain point a bicycle is stiff enough for any rider - but you can keep on measuring the differences in stiffness because a mechanical arm can put more power than a person can. So... best bet is to just ride the thing.