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The climb up to Wintergreen

Old 03-23-13, 11:28 AM
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The climb up to Wintergreen

I went skiing earlier this year at Wintergreen Resort in VA. The climb looked pretty brutal. Anyone done it?
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Old 03-23-13, 12:36 PM
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Yes, they have a time trial up the side of Wintergreen every spring. I did it 2 years ago with a standard crank and it was brutal. I now have a compact and am looking forward to attempting it again this year.
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Well, assuming you finished the climb on the 39, you, sir, are a MACHINE!
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Either of you ever done the Mountain Mama century? Thinking of giving it a go this year.
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No. As far as Wintergreen, I'd like to try it, but not in a TT. Maybe I'll solo it this year and try the TT next.
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Yes I did Mountain Mama several years ago as well. I was riding it with a buddy of mine who wasn't in top form at the time, so I didnt really push too hard. It does have a lot of climbing though, and would be extremely difficult at more aggressive pace. The beautiful thing about it, though, was that it was 95 degrees in DC that weekend but up in the mountains it was a beautiful 70 degrees.
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Mountain Mama route on RideWithGPS looks tough indeed. Anybody finishing that on a standard crank is a MUCH better man than me...

...but the approach at the end of this route looks even tougher...

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Yes I did Mountain Mama several years ago as well. I was riding it with a buddy of mine who wasn't in top form at the time, so I didnt really push too hard. It does have a lot of climbing though, and would be extremely difficult at more aggressive pace. The beautiful thing about it, though, was that it was 95 degrees in DC that weekend but up in the mountains it was a beautiful 70 degrees.
It's a goal of mine to do this year.
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Here's the Strava segment. A few guys from our club in Richmond go out there and ride it. I hope to try it sometime.

https://app.strava.com/segments/683356
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https://www.cvilleracing.com/Wintergr...reen_Flyer.pdf
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Yeah, Wintergreen is a fun climb, but I definitely suggest a compact......ouch.
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Here's me at the top:



There are fairly long stretches of 15% grades. I wouldn't have made it with a standard crank. I used a compact with 11/28 cassette.

Mountain Mama is a great ride. I've done it three times. I think it's harder than Mountains of Misery, because the climbs just keep coming.
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Great shot! Maybe we should see who registers for the mama this year and say hello/start together (I wouldn't subject anyone to riding with me for any period of time I'm a plodder
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I'm slow too, but I usually get there eventually
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I too am attempting the Time Trial this year. They haven't posted the event at pre-reg.com and am eagerly awaiting it.

I actually do hill climb training around Roseland, VA (5 miles East) so I can give it a few tries before the TT.

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Why is it that standard cranks would be more difficult? I would have thought the lower the gears you have available the better off you'd be, minus the weight penalty.
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That hill's a beast. The other side (up from Love Road) is shorter but steeper. 20 minutes of pure sweet bliss. If you really want to knock your teeth loose go do Route 56 up to the Blue Ridge Parkway from 151. Less steep than Wintergreen but way longer and no rhythm to it at all. The detour to go gawk at the falls WILL ruin your Strava time but is well worth it. The drop down 56 to the west is just insane. Never climbed it though. Tons of awesome riding all around there, road and mtb.
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Originally Posted by NMBuff View Post
Why is it that standard cranks would be more difficult? I would have thought the lower the gears you have available the better off you'd be, minus the weight penalty.
Because math: 39 > 34.

39-25 ratio = 41 gear inches
34-25 ratio = 36 gear gear inches

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Originally Posted by CrankAndYank View Post
Well, assuming you finished the climb on the 39, you, sir, are a MACHINE!
The Tour Dupont used to have a stage that finished with that climb.

I did it with a 39/23 back then, when I went down to watch a stage. Wasn't the ideal gearing, but I made it up.
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Originally Posted by JimF22003 View Post
There are fairly long stretches of 15% grades. .
According to the Strava file it touches 15% for a few feet. Around half a mile total at 10% or above. Average grade 7.6%
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According to the Strava file it touches 15% for a few feet. Around half a mile total at 10% or above. Average grade 7.6%
All of the steepness happens above the resort gate. It's a glorified false flat from 151 to the resort. 39/23 must have stung a little bit.
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All of the steepness happens above the resort gate. It's a glorified false flat from 151 to the resort. 39/23 must have stung a little bit.
I was in pretty good shape then, but yes. Not suggesting it was a good choice of gearing , but it is doable.
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Don't let the Average Grade fool you! My car has never made it to the top without letting me know the climb was tough for it as well!!
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This is the first I've heard of the Mountain Mama, it looks fun, I'll try to make it this year.
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Originally Posted by November Dave View Post
That hill's a beast. The other side (up from Love Road) is shorter but steeper. 20 minutes of pure sweet bliss. If you really want to knock your teeth loose go do Route 56 up to the Blue Ridge Parkway from 151. Less steep than Wintergreen but way longer and no rhythm to it at all. The detour to go gawk at the falls WILL ruin your Strava time but is well worth it. The drop down 56 to the west is just insane. Never climbed it though. Tons of awesome riding all around there, road and mtb.
The climb from Vesuvius rocks. Since we're reminiscing about out gearing, I did that with 39-25 once.

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