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When a Solo ride becomes small group ride

Old 02-13-05, 05:07 PM
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When a Solo ride becomes small group ride

What do you do when you're cruising solo, and you meet up with a pair/group of riders who are going ~about~ your speed?

I ask because earlier today this happened to me. I was already 30 miles into a ride when one guy, then two pulled in front of me. This action caused me to slow from 23 to around 20mph. They stayed there for a couple of miles, no biggie. After watching these two guys come up on another group and *nearly* get tangled up with another rider as all three of us were passing them, I dropped back a few yards to avoid getting involved in their mess. No, nobody crashed....just a precaution on my behalf. Remember, I don't know any of these other riders. The ride continued and these two guys weren't exactly keeping the pace I was interested in. I gave them the signal that I was coming up on their left and passed them.

My ride continued. . .

The next thing is what kinda pissed me off. As I was chugging up a hill a couple of miles later one of the guys...and only one at this point, the others were gone...yells at me and said that sucking their wheels and then taking off was $%!*. I really wanted to stop him and ask who the hell he thought he was. He was the one who decided to pass me originally, and then slow his pace.

If this other rider is in this forum...you were riding a red and black Orbea...I'd like to say that you and your boyfriend make a cute couple. Go F yourself.

I'm not the kind of guy who is out there to start anything with other people (previous comment excluded) . I'm out there to have a good time and get some exercise. If you want to ride with me, let me know and I'll abide by group ride rules. Otherwise, in my opinion...aside from general safety rules... all bets are off. I'll keep my own pace, and pass you when I please.

What do you guys think? How do you handle "traffic," and situations like this?
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Old 02-13-05, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by triggersd

If this other rider is in this forum...you were riding a red and black Orbea...I'd like to say that you and your boyfriend make a cute couple. Go F yourself.



LOL... I absoloutely hate people passing me and then slowing down..... I'd rather have them suck my wheel than do that.... You should've said you were taking a pull...its not YOUR fault they got dropped..
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Old 02-13-05, 05:13 PM
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oh brother...why not just take a pee break for a moment and let them ride on.
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Old 02-13-05, 05:19 PM
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I ride MY speed and MY pace, if I come up on riders I let them know I'm approaching and will pass, and continue MY pace
Anyone wants to pass me, fine, but don't block my pace by slowing in front of me. I will,however, slow down, or speed up to avoid any situations such as you encountered.
I prefer to ride alone when I'm doing serious riding, but DO NOT suffer fools gladly
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Old 02-13-05, 05:21 PM
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I didn't have a problem with these two guys sitting in front of me for a little while, because I was giving them a chance to pick it back up and continue the ride. They just didn't, so I passed. I know that the tone of my post sounds harsh. I'm allowed to vent, right? And now that I have, I'm over it.

I guess what I really want to know is: do other people mix in with random pairs or groups? Do you participate in their pace lines? How close do you get? How close don't you get?

What's your opinion when someone just pops in randomly, and all of a sudden they're part of your group?
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Old 02-13-05, 07:05 PM
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If you pass somebody you had better not slow down. Anything that happens after that is your fault. Those guys are whiners. Your best choice was to pass them back and motor away. Second best choice was to turn. Third best choice was to stop and start again, but the slackers probably would have slowed down some more until you caught up and passed them, and then they would have passed you back and slowed down again. The trouble with losers is they are consistent. Best thing to do was to introduce them to a whole new kind of pain, even if it took the best ride of your life. Whiners/slackers/losers have no character, so they would have cracked. The other thing to do was to pick a route that looked like it was going to go WAY out of town. Even if they just followed you, with luck you would eventually exceed their distance limit. Then you stop at a convenience store, recharge, and crawwwwlll home....
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naw, see what you gotta do it turn on the alarm for your HRM, so that it beeps when you're out of your traiing zone. Its annoying as hell, and the other riders are bound to hear it if they are riding too slowly and you drop out of your training zone.
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Old 02-13-05, 07:44 PM
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Yea. You took your pull and they couldn't follow. Don't worry about it. If I am out solo I usually just keep riding solo, say hi and go on. If I meet a friend I usuall size up the situation and if it works out we end up riding together for a while. I had one situation where a newbie (kakie shorts and a McDonalds tee shirt riding a $4k bike) blew past me at an intersection where I was stopped right before a hill. My riding partner and I caught him within a mile and immediatly he grabbed my back wheel without saying a word. As soon as we hit the next hill we just blew him away. Stopped at the local mcDonalds a few miles up the road to drop off my buddy and he came rolling in after a few minutes. Found out he owned the local McDonalds and two others locally. We talked about what happened. He really just needed some coaching. Turned out to be a pretty decent guy. Maybe he will learn some biking etiquite. Newbies just need to be mentored some that is all.
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Old 02-13-05, 09:50 PM
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My question is how do you introduce yourself/ask someone that you know if you followed, you'd train harder?

Our group consists of absolute beginners who don't train during the week to people that coach on a national level and are quite good themselves. I find myself being tailed by those that are less experienced than me but I often try to ride with people better than me because that's the only way I'll push myself and train harder.

I pass when I can - for instance I hit 30 mph going down a small hill in top gear and passed some much better riders. I know that's probably the only time I'll ever pass them - I'll take what I can get Yes my legs were burned out but hey, it's the fastest I've gone to date...
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Old 02-13-05, 09:59 PM
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I like solo for personal training because every day is a little different with different goals and objectives. If I ride with a group all the time I am limited. I went out Saturday with 3 others. Was a great ride day and I found myself at the end of a 40 mile ride with an average of only 15.5. I ws not spent and felt great but really needed to get in a hard 40 because winter time doesn't allow for these great days very often. I can do light days on the trainer when it is bad outside. So for personal training I ride solo or with someone that has the same fitness level and goals as i do. I ride group rides most of the time when I need a rest day ride. Slow and easy.
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Old 02-13-05, 10:00 PM
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If someone happens to pass me I usually will fall back a bit usually they slow down a bit as well. And yes that is annoying. I usually wait for a hill then sit behind them and wait till around half way up then pass or as stated above take a pull If they hang on no prob if they get dropped no big deal.
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Old 02-13-05, 11:24 PM
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Drop em, vent, and get back to ridiing. You weren't part of their group, didn't owe them a thing, and they were slowing you down. Even if it was a group ride with best freinds, sometimes people get dropped and you regroup later. For someone to get pissy about it shows their immaturity. Lke you said, F___orget them and ride on.
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Old 02-13-05, 11:35 PM
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I think you handled yourself well... I had a little verbal confrontation myself today with a women who was on her bike, talking on her cell phone and suddenly stopped right in my path by the Queensboro Bridge, she stopped in the middle of the path and I was a couple of feet behind her and I suddenly had to swerve out of her way, I yelled "Get out of the way"

she told me to "**** off" where I then turned my bike around and rode up to her and asked if she had a ****ing problem before I continued my ride.

Some people are just stupid and inconsiderate.




Originally Posted by triggersd
What do you do when you're cruising solo, and you meet up with a pair/group of riders who are going ~about~ your speed?

I ask because earlier today this happened to me. I was already 30 miles into a ride when one guy, then two pulled in front of me. This action caused me to slow from 23 to around 20mph. They stayed there for a couple of miles, no biggie. After watching these two guys come up on another group and *nearly* get tangled up with another rider as all three of us were passing them, I dropped back a few yards to avoid getting involved in their mess. No, nobody crashed....just a precaution on my behalf. Remember, I don't know any of these other riders. The ride continued and these two guys weren't exactly keeping the pace I was interested in. I gave them the signal that I was coming up on their left and passed them.

My ride continued. . .

The next thing is what kinda pissed me off. As I was chugging up a hill a couple of miles later one of the guys...and only one at this point, the others were gone...yells at me and said that sucking their wheels and then taking off was $%!*. I really wanted to stop him and ask who the hell he thought he was. He was the one who decided to pass me originally, and then slow his pace.

If this other rider is in this forum...you were riding a red and black Orbea...I'd like to say that you and your boyfriend make a cute couple. Go F yourself.

I'm not the kind of guy who is out there to start anything with other people (previous comment excluded) . I'm out there to have a good time and get some exercise. If you want to ride with me, let me know and I'll abide by group ride rules. Otherwise, in my opinion...aside from general safety rules... all bets are off. I'll keep my own pace, and pass you when I please.

What do you guys think? How do you handle "traffic," and situations like this?
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Old 02-14-05, 12:34 AM
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Similar situation, but with a twist. My wife and I were out on the road with one of her girlfriends, who only owns a MTB, so we were on our MTBs. I got ahead of them and was awhile later passed by a mom and pap roadie couple, who upon passing me -- slowed down.
So I sucked the wife's wheel until a chance to pass occurred. During a climb, the husband -- aware of the fact that I was right behind them -- kept asking his wife if I was still attached, pissed off at the fact that I was sucking wheel, even though I had not changed pace. I took the moment to pass them both, 26 wheels and all.
I can only hope they learned their lesson...
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I'm a newbie, but some of y'all are way uptight. If someone in front of you is going slower than you are just pass them. Who cares if they passed you and slowed down. Just go around. Keep a smile on your face. You'll live longer.
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I would have just dropped him and been satisfied with that. Pissed off still, yes, but satisfied.

The guy's comment is annoying, truly. Let's hope you don't see them again. If you do, forget the attitude and drop 'em again!!!
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Well..... sounds like a strange crew...

First clue that the interlopers had no class was when they slowed your pace. Second clue was when they get themselves entangled with yet another party.

At this point it would have been time to say your fairwells, come around and increase the tempo until they cracked.
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Old 02-14-05, 01:12 PM
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seems like a very short stop or a turn would have done the trick.
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I usually pull my "Greg LeMond Tour Tummy-Trouble"...let a huge amount of diarehea squirt out all over yourself just as you pass them...works every time.


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Something similar happened to my friend and I yesterday... we were riding along, keeping a steady pace and this dude wound up on my wheel. I don't care about uninvited, unannounced suckas cuz I'm a jackass and I don't worry about their well-being.

No no, I don't want them to get hurt, but I'm also not going to let it bother me.

Well, my friend isn't used to people doing this, so it threw her of her game. She totally lost rhythm and focus for a few seconds. I slowed down enough to force the guy off. We were in our cool down phase after 50 miles, so no biggie.


What I don't understand is... why don't people ride their bike, like they drive their car? I nearly got hit several times this weekend cuz newbies and experienced riders alike were swinging wide thru turns.
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Originally Posted by Lufty
I usually pull my "Greg LeMond Tour Tummy-Trouble"...let a huge amount of diarehea squirt out all over yourself just as you pass them...works every time.


Hmmm, I know I'll be sorry I asked later but.....what's the story behind Gregs' Tour Tummy Trouble...
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Can't we all just get along?
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Originally Posted by triggersd
I was already 30 miles into a ride when one guy, then two pulled in front of me. This action caused me to slow from 23 to around 20mph.
That's a pretty big reduction in speed. If your estimate is accurate, you could have immediately blown by them and resumed your pace, if you still had gas in the tank. (Which I'm sure you had.)
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Originally Posted by Swiss Hoser
That's a pretty big reduction in speed. If your estimate is accurate, you could have immediately blown by them and resumed your pace, if you still had gas in the tank. (Which I'm sure you had.)
That is a really big difference, but depends on accuracy of estimate. Suppose it depends on how far past you want to blow by - these sound like the kind of guys who would see this as some sort of challenge to their (albeit low-level) "manhood", which always cracks me up. You'd want to hammer by and put some distance on 'em before continuing at speed.
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I'll be glad when the weather improves. Seems everyone is SO CRANKY
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