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The death of non carbon rim....Carbon is the New King of Wheels

Old 04-12-13, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Steel too. Steel is dead. Can't find none anywhere.
Are you trying to say that steel is no longer real?
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Replacing your worn-out rims goes away with disc brakes, too. Recreational riders don't care much about aerodynamics, and there are more recreational cyclists than wannabe racers.
It's true. I saw a lot of rec riders on carbon hoops in San Diego just riding around. Rationally though, I can replace my wheel two or four times for the cost of a carbon rim.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Perhaps someone took a wrong turn while looking for the racing forum. It's a common mistake.
Well since the OP is about carbon wheels and use on one of the roughest and most challenging courses....
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I just bought a set of Fulcrum Racing 7s for $193 a few weeks ago. Want to guess what the rims are made of? It ain't carbon.
those things are heavy but pretty reliable; I had a pair that I used on my bad weather/commuter.
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Ummm....what should I title a new thread to make all the carbon wheel haters come out and play? Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody
I cant see a real problem with heat build up, a number of race cars use carbon brakes. Cross bike can be had with disc and I think steel frames still. I know road/racing bikez are different, but you offer a light disc and aero caliper, you might be making money. Hell carbon disc and a sticky brake pad.
A carbon brake rotor is reinforced carbon-carbon - the stuff on the leading edges of the space shuttle. It's carbon fiber reinforcing a graphite matrix, while most CF is carbon fiber reinforcing an epoxy matrix. They are produced by laying up CF normally, allowing it to cure, then baking it at extremely high temperatures until the existing matrix turns to carbon. It is then injected with acetylene which forms more carbon, filling the voids that form during the previous step. This produces a very strong, very heat resistant, but quite brittle material. But it isn't what your bike is made out of. The production costs also make pro tour bikes look like little red trikes.

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Originally Posted by gc3
Ummm....what should I title a new thread to make all the carbon wheel haters come out and play? Any suggestions?
More of the attitude is coming from the carbon is god crowd.
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P-R is also pancake flat and tends to string out. Riders run 44-46 small chainrings across the board.

Assuming crosswinds are manageable deep wheels are going to be an advantage provided they don't asplode,

Throw an outdated UCI weight limit into the mix and gobs of sponsor money and here we are.

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Carbon is the New King of Wheels <--- sure, specially when it is for free. Darn rims are like 700 bucks each (or going chinese no warranty ones) and at those prices there is no way for the average joe to afford them, sure carbon is the new material in wheels, they rock but a good set is like 2000 dollars or more.

At those prices will continue using AL, at least I know that will take like 50 years to eat the braking surface.
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^unless you move to Burnaby BC, where you'll wear through 1-2 per season, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I just bought a set of Fulcrum Racing 7s for $193 a few weeks ago. Want to guess what the rims are made of? It ain't carbon.
where did you pick those up at? ive some 2010's with the red hub and they are my favorite pair of wheels.
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Originally Posted by bonz50
disc brakes eliminate that argument completely. and as we've seen, discs are indeed coming eventually.
That I wouldn't bet on. There's no real proof at all that will happen in the marketplace. The benefits are just not strong enough in every day use because the average Joe rides on wheels where braking is not the least troubling. The market for road discs won't exist until it's something that most people can see a benefit from.
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