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Shimano Ultegra 6800 11-Speed is here!

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Shimano Ultegra 6800 11-Speed is here!

Here's the new Ultegra 6800 11-speed!

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Shimano Launch New 11-Speed Ultegra - Triathlon Plus | TriRadar.com
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Shimano Launch New 11-Speed Ultegra
Triathlon Plus | Gear | Gear News | 25/04/2013 09:53am
Shimano incorporates 11-speed to Ultegra

"...Today SHIMANO launches its 2014 Ultegra lineup. The new 6800 series incorporates race proven Dura-Ace technologies to improve comfort and control, like an 11-speed rider tuned drivetrain, improved shifting performance and more braking power. Both groupsets share their true spirit of the sport. Where Dura-Ace focuses fully on professional race level, Ultegra brings race proven technology to cycling enthusiasts.

The dual control shifters give tactile feedback to the rider that the gear shift has been completed. With a shorter lever stroke and defined click engagement the shift is completed. The hoods and bracket grip are more compact, and the carbon lever has been redesigned to improve ergonomics and control.

Both derailleurs have also been completely redesigned. They are more compact, lighter, feature a shorter stroke at the lever and deliver more even shifting effort throughout the full range of the cassette. The new drivetrain makes shifting and braking as easy as possible so a rider can, concentrate on the ride, especially in tough conditions.

The new Ultegra 6800 series has 10% more braking power that its predecessor. The extra brake power results in enhanced control, especially from the hood position. This, in large, is as a result of the new symmetrical dual pivot design and the new brake shoe compound. Besides increased braking power, modulation is improved by using new polymer-coated BC-R680 cables. The Ultegra brakes are also available in a direct mount version for aerodynamics (BR-R6800).

Ultegra 6800 has a rider tuned drivetrain. Rider tuned means that riders can individually choose a large variety of gearing options for all kinds of riding, whether you ride races, Gran Fondo’s, sportives or cyclocross. The Ultegra cassette is going 11-speed. From 11-23T all the way to 11-32T. The Ultegra 6800 crank shares the same 4 arm design as its Dura-Ace counterpart. The 4 arms provide a better power transfer compared to a five arm design, and reduce overall weight. The crank is available in 53x39T, 52x36T, 50x34T and 46x36T.

The chain (CN-6800) with a new surface technology called Sil-tec. an advanced surface plating technology to increase performance. Recently debuted in the Dura-Ace 9000 chain, Sil-Tec technology adds a low friction surface treatment that runs smoother and lasts longer.

With Ultegra going 11-speed SHIMANO has developed an 11-speed wheel on Ultegra level, the WH-6800. This lightweight wheel has a wide flange hub and an offset rim for high rigidity and power transmission. It has a digital adjustment system and less quick release axial force for easy maintenance and cup & cone bearings for durability. Compatible in tubular, tube and tubeless. As with all SHIMANO wheels, the WH-6800 is 100% in-house produced and hand-assembled.
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Sweet, does that mean my 10 spd replacement parts are going to be cheaper now?
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Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
Sweet, does that mean my 10 spd replacement parts are going to be cheaper now?
Other than this, pretty un-exciting.
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Originally Posted by FPSDavid View Post
Other than this, pretty un-exciting.
I disagree. New Ultegra will be awesome just like DA9000 is everything DA7900 wasn't.
6700 shifting and hood ergos wasn't very good and 6800 will likely be sold on more mid to higher level roadbikes than any other groupset.
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Cool! New wheels for everyone
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
I disagree. New Ultegra will be awesome just like DA9000 is everything DA7900 wasn't.
6700 shifting and hood ergos wasn't very good and 6800 will likely be sold on more mid to higher level roadbikes than any other groupset.
what a load of idiocy.
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Originally Posted by coasting View Post
what a load of idiocy.
Yes your comments are. I owned DA7900. It was crap. Hood ergos sucked. Hood rubbers were loose. Hand pressure had hot spots.
Hoods were large and clunky looking. Pull ratios didn't work with under tape cable routing and shifting was balky. Shift detents were vague. DA9000 is completely different and so is trickle down 6800. A complete redesign and much needed. My prediction is 6800 is going to be loved. DA7900 and cheaper clone Ultegra 6700 was a step backward and not forward from from the previous generation of Shimano. 9000/6800 is what Shimano should have released initially.

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Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
Sweet, does that mean my 10 spd replacement parts are going to be cheaper now?
No, it means that ten speed parts will be like nine speed is now.
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Finally! Now to just wait for 6870 parts.

And also, what's going to be 8000? The mind fairly boggles.
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Ultegra Di2 is 10 speed? So does this mean 2015's Ultegra Di2 will be 11 speed, rendering all who ride 6770 now obsolete?

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about all these changes and new options, but the next few years seem like they will be intense with groupset changes between going 11-speed and electronic.
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Originally Posted by THSdrummer View Post
Ultegra Di2 is 10 speed? So does this mean 2015's Ultegra Di2 will be 11 speed, rendering all who ride 6770 now obsolete?

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about all these changes and new options, but the next few years seem like they will be intense with groupset changes between going 11-speed and electronic.
I was thinking the same thing. Good thing I cant afford a group set upgrade for a while Ill just kick back and see how it all pans out
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
Yes your comments are. I owned DA7900. It was crap. Hood ergos sucked. Hood rubbers were loose. Hand pressure had hot spots.
Hoods were large and clunky looking. Pull ratios didn't work with under tape cable routing and shifting was balky. Shift detents were vague. DA9000 is completely different and so is trickle down 6800. A complete redesign and much needed. My prediction is 6800 is going to be loved. DA7900 and cheaper clone Ultegra 6700 was a step backward and not forward from from the previous generation of Shimano. 9000/6800 is what Shimano should have released initially.
so you have an industrial spy inside shimano. genius.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
I disagree. New Ultegra will be awesome just like DA9000 is everything DA7900 wasn't.
6700 shifting and hood ergos wasn't very good and 6800 will likely be sold on more mid to higher level roadbikes than any other groupset.
I've never ridden 6700, but this is the first time I've read or heard this. I thought the consensus was that 6700 was like butta.
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I've never ridden 6700, but this is the first time I've read or heard this. I thought the consensus was that 6700 was like butta.
it is. it was a massive improvement and the front shifting was not just butter, but melted butter. he didn't like 7900 and decided that meant 6700 was bad too. idiot.
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Originally Posted by coasting View Post
it is. it was a massive improvement and the front shifting was not just butter, but melted butter. he didn't like 7900 and decided that meant 6700 was bad too. idiot.
6700 is a cheapened version of 7900.
Common knowledge 6700/7900 had balky shifting.

Here's a pop quiz coasting to see if you know anything about groupsets coasting. Explain why Shimano changed their pull ratio on DA 9000/ Ultegra 6700 after keeping it the same for 20 years?

Also fair warning. No name calling coasting. Just a friendly reminder. I tolerate your lack of knowledge so you should at least have the courtesy of respect for others (me) that know a lot more than you.
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coasting,

I understand this is the 41 and all, but personal attacks really do nothing to make your point, assuming you have one.
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Originally Posted by ILUVUK View Post
I've never ridden 6700, but this is the first time I've read or heard this. I thought the consensus was that 6700 was like butta.
Butter and lack of solid tactile feedback between shifts can be construed as the same thing. Many don't want butter. Contrast 6700 to Sram or Campy. Both 'slam' into gear compared to 6700 which you never know if a shift had been completed. Shimano realized this and revised 9000/6800 accordingly.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
6700 is a cheapened version of 7900.
Common knowledge 6700/7900 had balky shifting.

Here's a pop quiz coasting to see if you know anything about groupsets coasting. Explain why Shimano changed their pull ratio on DA 9000/ Ultegra 6700 after keeping it the same for 20 years?

Also fair warning. No name calling coasting. Just a friendly reminder. I tolerate your lack of knowledge so you should at least have the courtesy of respect for others (me) that know a lot more than you.
another self appointed technical expert.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
Butter and lack of solid tactile feedback between shifts can be construed as the same thing. Many don't want butter. Contrast 6700 to Sram or Campy. Both 'slam' into gear compared to 6700 which you never know if a shift had been completed. Shimano realized this and revised 9000/6800 accordingly.
Both are valid engineering goals.
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Originally Posted by coasting View Post
another self appointed technical expert.
Actually you prove you are not technically inclined is the point. Why? Because you substitute name calling for technical rebuttal.
Go out and read some reviews of both previous Ultegra and DA. Pretty much unanamous for example that DA 7800 shifted a lot better than DA 7900. Shimano basically didn't executed their cloning of hidden cable routing very well. If you want to tell me why it didn't work with their design then you can redeem yourself...but quite sure you can't.

This exposes that it is you who are projecting and don't know what you are talking about. Shimano radically redesigned Ultegra and DA for many good reasons. Previous gen mech Shimano was seriously flawed. All mfr's do it. In 2009 when Campy released Ultrashift shifting was awful. Many believe new Red has been transformed by Sram's recent design changes.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
Butter and lack of solid tactile feedback between shifts can be construed as the same thing. Many don't want butter. Contrast 6700 to Sram or Campy. Both 'slam' into gear compared to 6700 which you never know if a shift had been completed. Shimano realized this and revised 9000/6800 accordingly.
your preferences do not represent engineering errors.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life View Post
Actually you prove you are not technically inclined is the point. Why? Because you substitute name calling for technical rebuttal.
Go out and read some reviews of both previous Ultegra and DA. Pretty much unanamous for example that DA 7800 shifted a lot better than DA 7900. Shimano basically didn't executed their cloning of hidden cable routing very well. If you want to tell me why it didn't work with their design then you can redeem yourself...but quite sure you can't.

This exposes that it is you who are projecting and don't know what you are talking about. Shimano radically redesigned Ultegra and DA for many good reasons. Previous gen mech Shimano was seriously flawed. All mfr's do it. In 2009 when Campy released Ultrashift shifting was awful. Many believe new Red has been transformed by Sram's recent design changes.
your technical expertise is from reading cycling magazine gear reviews. brilliant. laterally stif vertically compliant. yeah baby.
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