Motorcyclist hits cyclists.
05-01-13, 12:57 PM
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That assumption is the problem. Accidents don't just happen, without someone being at fault. (certainly not without intervening circumstances like and Act of God).
They're collisions, not accidents.
The motorcyclist had a duty to avoid running into traffic ahead of him, and he acted certainly in neglect of that duty, if not in willful disregard of it.
You operate potentially lethal machinery, you have to take responsibility for it.
**** happens doesn't cut it.
They're collisions, not accidents.
The motorcyclist had a duty to avoid running into traffic ahead of him, and he acted certainly in neglect of that duty, if not in willful disregard of it.
You operate potentially lethal machinery, you have to take responsibility for it.
**** happens doesn't cut it.
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05-01-13, 01:05 PM
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When I was a 1L I just wrote "Hey, man. Accidents happen." in my bluebook for my Torts final.
05-01-13, 01:13 PM
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I saw a motorcyclist just after he was cut in half once on the FDR drive in NYC many many years ago. he had some kind of accident with a car and came down on the guard rail splitting him in 1/2
05-01-13, 09:09 PM
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05-01-13, 09:31 PM
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I wanna see more of that girl with her pants hanging half way off her butt.....
I used to race motorcycles. it appears to me that The rider on the motorcycle saw the cyclists, panicked and left off the throttle through the corner which drifted him to the outward corner. If he would have stayed on the throttle he would have kept his inside line and would have been fine. This of course is assuming that his path was clear and there wasn't other cyclists or obstructions we didn't see further down the road that also would have kept him from carrying his line. Inexperienced rider. That's scary to think that it can happen to any of us.
I used to race motorcycles. it appears to me that The rider on the motorcycle saw the cyclists, panicked and left off the throttle through the corner which drifted him to the outward corner. If he would have stayed on the throttle he would have kept his inside line and would have been fine. This of course is assuming that his path was clear and there wasn't other cyclists or obstructions we didn't see further down the road that also would have kept him from carrying his line. Inexperienced rider. That's scary to think that it can happen to any of us.
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05-01-13, 09:36 PM
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^ I think the motorcycle was perfectly capable of navigating the corner.
That's why I advocate all cyclists only ride on sidewalks or MUPs!
That's why I advocate all cyclists only ride on sidewalks or MUPs!
05-01-13, 09:40 PM
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I think he was capable until he was came around not expecting the unexpected. letting off the throttle to think what would be safest to go around them but it happened so quickly for him that drifted outward and it was all to late.
05-01-13, 09:42 PM
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05-01-13, 09:44 PM
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If you have seen the video from the friends' bike following him...they buzzed other cyclists prior to this corner...so argument can be made cyclists on road should have not been a surprise.
05-01-13, 10:26 PM
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Ohhh well, then that completely takes my theory out of the picture if that is true.
05-01-13, 10:30 PM
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The rider was at fault and he shouldn't have taken the twisty road at a excessive speed when he hadn't any significant riding experience.
05-02-13, 05:20 AM
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I wanna see more of that girl with her pants hanging half way off her butt.....
I used to race motorcycles. it appears to me that The rider on the motorcycle saw the cyclists, panicked and left off the throttle through the corner which drifted him to the outward corner. If he would have stayed on the throttle he would have kept his inside line and would have been fine. This of course is assuming that his path was clear and there wasn't other cyclists or obstructions we didn't see further down the road that also would have kept him from carrying his line. Inexperienced rider. That's scary to think that it can happen to any of us.
I used to race motorcycles. it appears to me that The rider on the motorcycle saw the cyclists, panicked and left off the throttle through the corner which drifted him to the outward corner. If he would have stayed on the throttle he would have kept his inside line and would have been fine. This of course is assuming that his path was clear and there wasn't other cyclists or obstructions we didn't see further down the road that also would have kept him from carrying his line. Inexperienced rider. That's scary to think that it can happen to any of us.
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