Who has the oldest Carbon Bike? How many miles have you clocked?
05-02-13, 07:37 AM
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As for the collection of anecdotal evidence, my 2007 Giant TCR Team Advanced has about 25,000 miles on it now, has been crashed 3 times, and my friend I sold it to is still riding it, with no issues.
Another friend was riding an old lugged Giant Cadex frame, that was over 20 years old, until he snapped the non replaceable metal derailleur hanger.
Another friend was riding an old lugged Giant Cadex frame, that was over 20 years old, until he snapped the non replaceable metal derailleur hanger.
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05-02-13, 11:06 AM
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1989 Kestrel 200sc. Unknown mileage, but not much, doctors garage queen. The Kestrels are heavy by today's standards but are a known high mileage bike. Ride's like a dream on chip seal. I make sure it's not stored in direct sunlight.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Not sure how it translates in miles, but we know that a 1997 Trek OCLV will survive 200,000 fatigue cycles, subjected to a load that will kill a Columbus tubed steel frame in 56,000 cycles.
https://sheldonbrown.com/rinard/EFBe/...tigue_test.htm
The idea that CF bikes won't last as long as steel is simply wrong, and has been disproved in testing.
A well built carbon fiber bike will last for decades, if it's not destroyed in a crash. Of course, it's also possible to destroy frames made of other materials in crashes as well.
And if you do damage a CF frame, it can often be cost effectively repaired, where it's often not cost effect to repair a metal frame.
https://sheldonbrown.com/rinard/EFBe/...tigue_test.htm
The idea that CF bikes won't last as long as steel is simply wrong, and has been disproved in testing.
A well built carbon fiber bike will last for decades, if it's not destroyed in a crash. Of course, it's also possible to destroy frames made of other materials in crashes as well.
And if you do damage a CF frame, it can often be cost effectively repaired, where it's often not cost effect to repair a metal frame.
I think the idea of carbon not lasting as long is because carbon bikes can be built strong in some places, and weaker in others where under normal circumstances the extra beefiness is not needed. With a steel bike you just have steel tubes that are the same diameter and thickness from end to end, so the areas that are thinner on the carbon bike will actually be stronger. This shouldn't matter when you ride the bike, but when you crash you start to see the difference.
just a thought
My advice for anyone that wants their bike to last would be not to crash it.
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Originally Posted by mcnabb100
MY THEORY:
I think the idea of carbon not lasting as long is because carbon bikes can be built strong in some places, and weaker in others where under normal circumstances the extra beefiness is not needed. With a steel bike you just have steel tubes that are the same diameter and thickness from end to end, so the areas that are thinner on the carbon bike will actually be stronger. This shouldn't matter when you ride the bike, but when you crash you start to see the difference.
just a thought
My advice for anyone that wants their bike to last would be not to crash it.
I think the idea of carbon not lasting as long is because carbon bikes can be built strong in some places, and weaker in others where under normal circumstances the extra beefiness is not needed. With a steel bike you just have steel tubes that are the same diameter and thickness from end to end, so the areas that are thinner on the carbon bike will actually be stronger. This shouldn't matter when you ride the bike, but when you crash you start to see the difference.
just a thought
My advice for anyone that wants their bike to last would be not to crash it.
05-02-13, 01:17 PM
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150,000 mi for me, baby.
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05-02-13, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mcnabb100
MY THEORY:
I think the idea of carbon not lasting as long is because carbon bikes can be built strong in some places, and weaker in others where under normal circumstances the extra beefiness is not needed. With a steel bike you just have steel tubes that are the same diameter and thickness from end to end, so the areas that are thinner on the carbon bike will actually be stronger. This shouldn't matter when you ride the bike, but when you crash you start to see the difference.
just a thought
My advice for anyone that wants their bike to last would be not to crash it.
I think the idea of carbon not lasting as long is because carbon bikes can be built strong in some places, and weaker in others where under normal circumstances the extra beefiness is not needed. With a steel bike you just have steel tubes that are the same diameter and thickness from end to end, so the areas that are thinner on the carbon bike will actually be stronger. This shouldn't matter when you ride the bike, but when you crash you start to see the difference.
just a thought
My advice for anyone that wants their bike to last would be not to crash it.
Press on the top tube on a modern light steel bike 8 inches or so behind the head tube. The tubing there is very thin, and you can feel it compressing under your fingers with not much effort.
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OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
05-02-13, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Another friend was riding an old lugged Giant Cadex frame, that was over 20 years old, until he snapped the non replaceable metal derailleur hanger.
05-02-13, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Your theory ignores the fact that higher end steel bikes are made with butted, oversized, shaped tubes.
Press on the top tube on a modern light steel bike 8 inches or so behind the head tube. The tubing there is very thin, and you can feel it compressing under your fingers with not much effort.
Press on the top tube on a modern light steel bike 8 inches or so behind the head tube. The tubing there is very thin, and you can feel it compressing under your fingers with not much effort.
05-02-13, 06:56 PM
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1995 trek 9900 oclv carbon pro issue mountain bike 2,400 miles used, i only had of about 11 months.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
100 do I hear 100?
150,000 mi for me, baby.
150,000 mi for me, baby.
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Think it's an... 89? It's an aegis frame, pretty sure it was branded a basso, but could also be a trek 5000.
I bought it last fall, have probably 1000 miles on it. Probably has about 10k on top of that. It's in nice shape, but it's not immaculate (see also: repaint) by any stretch.
I bought it last fall, have probably 1000 miles on it. Probably has about 10k on top of that. It's in nice shape, but it's not immaculate (see also: repaint) by any stretch.
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I have a 2006 Felt F5C that I bought as new old stock in April 2009. 9,300 miles so far.
Got hit by a car yesterday afternoon in a nasty right-hook, and today three different bike shops insisted the frame and fork are still fine; the bike is currently at a fourth shop, a Felt dealer this time, for a final opinion. My old aluminum framed bike was in an accident not even half as bad as this and it was toast.
Got hit by a car yesterday afternoon in a nasty right-hook, and today three different bike shops insisted the frame and fork are still fine; the bike is currently at a fourth shop, a Felt dealer this time, for a final opinion. My old aluminum framed bike was in an accident not even half as bad as this and it was toast.
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Originally Posted by Vlaam4ever
So who rode the first TdF carbon and when was it?
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