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Carbon fork for my steel frame?

Old 05-22-13, 01:38 PM
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Carbon fork for my steel frame?

I love this bike. But lately I've been tantalized by thoughts of putting a threadless carbon fork on it for the weight loss and allegedly improved road feel.



Should I? Would the benefits outweigh any aesthetic drawbacks?
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You can drop a pound or more in weight. And it will likely improve the handling by stiffening the front end. You could get it painted celeste if you wanted.
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Despite having a gorgeous fork with investment cast, fully sloping Cinelli crown, I bought a carbon fork for my custom Romic frame a few years ago. Frame and fork are in the final stages of repainting now. It is a big step, but I think it is the right thing to do, especially if you favor modernizing the group and cockpit also. I did save about 1 lb, and I do like the modified ride feel. To save that much, you have to go to a full carbon model fork. And of course there are extra weight savings with the threadless head set. With my mix of parts, the finishes bike will weight about 16.35 lb. Not bad. My recommendation is go for it. - Robert
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did that with my Marin Treviso - supa smooth ride without any lose of road feel
I likie !
yes, over a pound of weight reduction, and this with the budget Kinesis carbon blade/alloy steerer fork. Traditional curved taper blades, looks very nice. cane creek headset fit great

made a huge difference on road feel - I now ride this most every wkday...
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Got any pics?

The only 1" fork I've found is the Kinesis one at Wiggle.co.uk. I'd be afraid to go with a carbon steerer, as I'm a bigger guy. Don't want the fork to asplode. Or is that silly talk?
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^ I'm 200lbs. Retrofitted a Kinesis CF fork with a 1" carbon steerer on my Merlin. Been riding it like that for 8 years now, no issues.
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I have a 1" carbon Torelli fork in my Torelli Countach. I love the bike, but the steer tube is a bit noodly. I decided to order the AL steerer version and found the AL to be just as noodly as the carbon. Is this normal for 1" forks, or is it my bike? When I stand up and sprint or climb, the bars rock back and forth quite a bit. The only thing left I can think of to try is to put in a steel fork - basically the opposite of what the OP is considering.
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Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
Got any pics?

The only 1" fork I've found is the Kinesis one at Wiggle.co.uk. I'd be afraid to go with a carbon steerer, as I'm a bigger guy. Don't want the fork to asplode. Or is that silly talk?


don;t feel any difference between this fork or full carbon steerers on my other bikes, similar road feel, solidity...
and nuttin assploded, yet...
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Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
Got any pics?

The only 1" fork I've found is the Kinesis one at Wiggle.co.uk. I'd be afraid to go with a carbon steerer, as I'm a bigger guy. Don't want the fork to asplode. Or is that silly talk?
Another option:
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...79_-1___202441
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Do it!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, but look what it weighs: 586 g. That's a half pound more than a quality full carbon fork. I don't think 1" full carbon forks are a problem.
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Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
Got any pics?

The only 1" fork I've found is the Kinesis one at Wiggle.co.uk. I'd be afraid to go with a carbon steerer, as I'm a bigger guy. Don't want the fork to asplode. Or is that silly talk?
My opinion, silly talk, but the concern is understandable. I think you will be okay. No weight limits I have heard of.
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Ritchey also makes a fork which i am gonna use for my evenutal Lemond rebuild

http://ritcheylogic.com/dyn_prodfamily.php?k=451879
if you click on the option its available w/ 1 inch steerer
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I have a 1" carbon Torelli fork in my Torelli Countach. I love the bike, but the steer tube is a bit noodly. I decided to order the AL steerer version and found the AL to be just as noodly as the carbon. Is this normal for 1" forks, or is it my bike? When I stand up and sprint or climb, the bars rock back and forth quite a bit. The only thing left I can think of to try is to put in a steel fork - basically the opposite of what the OP is considering.
Usually the noodles are the fork legs, not the steerer. There is very little unsupported length to flex. Are you sure the headet is properly adjusted?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Usually the noodles are the fork legs, not the steerer. There is very little unsupported length to flex. Are you sure the headet is properly adjusted?
Yep. I adjusted myself twice, then took it to a very reputable LBS and had them check it as well. I'll see if I can capture some video of the flex. Maybe it is the legs - that might mean a different brand for could fix the problem...
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Originally Posted by save10 View Post
Ritchey also makes a fork which i am gonna use for my evenutal Lemond rebuild

http://ritcheylogic.com/dyn_prodfamily.php?k=451879
if you click on the option its available w/ 1 inch steerer
Doesn't seem to be, actually.
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Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
Got any pics?

The only 1" fork I've found is the Kinesis one at Wiggle.co.uk. I'd be afraid to go with a carbon steerer, as I'm a bigger guy. Don't want the fork to asplode. Or is that silly talk?
I wouldn't go with a carbon steerer either.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Yeah, but look what it weighs: 586 g. That's a half pound more than a quality full carbon fork. I don't think 1" full carbon forks are a problem.
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Ritchey also makes a fork which i am gonna use for my evenutal Lemond rebuild

http://ritcheylogic.com/dyn_prodfamily.php?k=451879
if you click on the option its available w/ 1 inch steerer
the kicker is - is it worth spending the extra $300+ plus for a full crapon 1" fork? 1" full crapon is spensive...
most aftermarket forks in the under $500 range seem to quote around 375g-425g, so under 220g-1/2 lb difference.

BTW - that ritchey, above, comes with >alloy< steerer in 1 "...

the nashbar and perfbike forks (like the one in the post above) are Kinesis forks - I put one - nashbar - on my son's bike. He tops 220 (Big Boy ... towers over me...) and it deals fine with his assault of the roads around here...
They're nice quality product without any real labeling (at least the one I put on his bike 3 yrs ago), so they tend to fit in well on an old school frame...
The steerer is pretty thick ALU, so I had to squash the star nut a touch, just to get it into the tube. The steerer is really solid and not likely gonna go anywhere south...
it's worth spending the few bucks more on a solid 1" headset, like the Cane Creek, since that becomes the locus of any road pounding...

and when nashbar does their 20% off you can get just under $100 when you put in their exorbitant ship rates and possible sales tax...

unless you're OCP, the nashbar, perfbike or Kinesis forks are look nice on a vintage machine, and ride very nicely. IMO
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Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
I love this bike. But lately I've been tantalized by thoughts of putting a threadless carbon fork on it for the weight loss and allegedly improved road feel.



Should I? Would the benefits outweigh any aesthetic drawbacks?
I read somewhere on teh intarwebz that carbon rides like crap and asplodes.
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I have a 1" carbon Torelli fork in my Torelli Countach. I love the bike, but the steer tube is a bit noodly. I decided to order the AL steerer version and found the AL to be just as noodly as the carbon. Is this normal for 1" forks, or is it my bike? When I stand up and sprint or climb, the bars rock back and forth quite a bit. The only thing left I can think of to try is to put in a steel fork - basically the opposite of what the OP is considering.
I have a Kinesis 1" fork on my Quintana Roo and the thing is stiff as hell. No flex at all, though that being said, the fork is probably 500 grams
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Originally Posted by pallen View Post
I have a 1" carbon Torelli fork in my Torelli Countach. I love the bike, but the steer tube is a bit noodly. I decided to order the AL steerer version and found the AL to be just as noodly as the carbon. Is this normal for 1" forks, or is it my bike? When I stand up and sprint or climb, the bars rock back and forth quite a bit. The only thing left I can think of to try is to put in a steel fork - basically the opposite of what the OP is considering.
Are you sure it's related to the fork at all?

26.0 handlebars are common on steel bikes and they're known for being pretty noodly.
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I got a 1" Reynolds Ouzo Pro and Criss King headset on an old Waterford. It saved 1.5 lbs and the bike handles much better. I had Waterford paint the fork and it matches the 21 year old frame perfectly.
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I have steel bikes with both steel and carbon forks. The bikes ride differently but I don't know that I can tell what part of that is the fork. If it was my classic celeste Bianchi, I'd keep the steel. In fact if that is a threaded to threadless adapter, I'd replace it with a nice silver quill stem! You can always buy a generic carbon bike if you feel moved in that direction.
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Got to agree with shelbyfv. I've got carbon bikes and steel bikes. The ride on both is very smooth. If you want to spend some $$$ on something where you'll notice the performance, I'd replace the wheels. The wheels on the red Bianchi in my avatar have been replaced with Mavic Ksyrium Elite. Made a major difference in the feel and handling of the bike over those entry level Mavics that it came with.
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I love the ride of a nice steel fork.

Just leave it alone and n+1.
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