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How do I upgrade a 1988 Trek 360?

Old 05-23-13, 02:45 PM
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How do I upgrade a 1988 Trek 360?

Hey guys,

My roommate has a bike that we'd like to learn off while upgrading. We need advice! Assuming that everything on the bike is stock, where should we start?

What are our goals? Minor improvements. We're not looking to transform the bike, it's just that 25 years has to have introduced a thing here or there to easily make the ride nicer.

-Suntour Alpha-4050 derailleur
-True Temper RC 4130 chromoly double-butted lugged frame and fork
-Sugino VL cranks
-Diacompe Alpha-5000 brakes
-Forte Strada tires, 700c x 23
-Weinmann 415x Alloy Box rims (wobbly, probably need to be replaced or trued)

The wheels will probably be first. What should we watch out for in terms of compatability?

Thanks!

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You could upgrade, but what are your goals? Budget?

I would say just give it a tune-up, replace the cables and maybe the tires, and ride it as is.

You could easily get a new front wheel....rear wheel may cause issues as I suspect this is a 6 speed with a freewheel, while 21st century wheels are setup for a cassette.
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Wobbly wheels could mean a bunch of things. Hubs needing a rebuild. Grossly out of true/warp/hop. Bent axle / skewer. Sometimes wheels can be repaired or trued. I wouldn't be in any particular hurry to replace unless they're shot. If you do, a set of 700c wheels used shouldn't run you too much, then you just need a 6-sp freewheel, tires, tubes & skewers.
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The wheels will probably be first. What should we watch out for in terms of compatability?
Measure everything you are looking at, and see if anything current is compatible. Just looking at the wheels, front wheel hub specs haven't changed, but your 1980's bike probably has a 126mm or even 120mm rear freewheel hub, where as modern rear hubs are 130mm freehubs. Then there is the rim size, is yours 27" or 700c?

If looking to 'upgrade' a bike from the 80's, you will run into a lot if incompatibility issue with contemporary parts; as datlas, you need to look at you objectives for the bike, and if you will gain anything over a basic service / replacing consumables.
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SunTour a-4050 was 6-speed, so the rear is certainly 126mm-spaced. I agree with datlas, just tune everything up (wheels probably just need to be trued) and ride as-is.
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as mentioned; cables, brake blocks, and tires. you're good to go.
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Thanks for the advice, guys! We've already swapped in a nice seat and tuned the breaks and derailleurs. It's a sweet ride as is. Getting the wheels trued will be next.

In case the wheels need to be replaced, what make and model would be compatible? The rear hub is indeed 126 mm.
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If it were me, and it needs a new wheel, I would jam a 130 mm wheel in there and run an 8 speed cassette in friction mode with your existing shifters and an 8 speed chain.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
You could upgrade, but what are your goals? Budget?

I would say just give it a tune-up, replace the cables and maybe the tires, and ride it as is.

You could easily get a new front wheel....rear wheel may cause issues as I suspect this is a 6 speed with a freewheel, while 21st century wheels are setup for a cassette.

There are still some 700c wheels out there that will accept a 6 speed freewheel. Otherwise, I agree, quick tune-up, new cables, maybe new brake pads, do the best you can with the wheels, and save for a new ride down the road. Anyone between 50 and death, who started riding in our teens or 20s, learned to use downtube shifters. It's not rocket science. They'll make him appreciate brifters more when he buys a new bike.

I have an old tourer with 27" Weinmann rims. I'm at least the third owner and I've put about 4000 miles on it. I haven't had to true the wheels since I got it. Granted, it's a bad weather/winter/back-up ride, but the rims are still solid.

Also, with 126 mm spacings, you might be able to stick a 7 speed freewheel on it. Sun Race freewheels are dirt cheap. I got one for $11.
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Buy a whole new bike
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Originally Posted by CrankAndYank View Post
Build a time machine and go back to when it was relevant.
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Buy a whole new bike
Kids these days.. lol. Now get off my lawn!
(Btw that '08 Giant is WAY outdated)

OP - You definitely should have posted this in the Classic & Vintage sub forum.
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
You could upgrade, but what are your goals? Budget?

I would say just give it a tune-up, replace the cables and maybe the tires, and ride it as is.

You could easily get a new front wheel....rear wheel may cause issues as I suspect this is a 6 speed with a freewheel, while 21st century wheels are setup for a cassette.
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Then ride it till the wheels fall off or you can afford a newer nicer bike. Sounds like a perfectly serviceable bike and when you get a newer nicer bike you can use it as a rain/winter bike as is, or convert it to a fixed gear.
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Originally Posted by Peli View Post
Hey guys,

My roommate has a bike that we'd like to learn off while upgrading. We need advice! Assuming that everything on the bike is stock, where should we start?

What are our goals? Minor improvements. We're not looking to transform the bike, it's just that 25 years has to have introduced a thing here or there to easily make the ride nicer.

-Suntour Alpha-4050 derailleur
-True Temper RC 4130 chromoly double-butted lugged frame and fork
-Sugino VL cranks
-Diacompe Alpha-5000 brakes
-Forte Strada tires, 700c x 23
-Weinmann 415x Alloy Box rims (wobbly, probably need to be replaced or trued)

The wheels will probably be first. What should we watch out for in terms of compatability?

Thanks!
You don't upgrade something like that. Keep it as it is, but in good working order.
It will be much cooler.
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Agreed. I ride 80s bikes now, 80s bike are cool 🚲
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(Btw that '08 Giant is WAY outdated)

haha Id love to upgrade... please convince my fiance. She seems to think a house is more important then bikes... she's so silly
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If it were me, and it needs a new wheel, I would jam a 130 mm wheel in there and run an 8 speed cassette in friction mode with your existing shifters and an 8 speed chain.
This.

You can easily cold set 126mm to 130mm on a steel frame.

And you can always take the wheels to a new bike down the road.

I wouldn't do anything more than tuneup, and new wheels though.
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(Btw that '08 Giant is WAY outdated)

haha Id love to upgrade... please convince my fiance. She seems to think a house is more important then bikes... she's so silly
I'm in the exact same boat.. women.. sheesh
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True the wheels.
Replace the brake shoes.
For ~$110 you can upgrade to 7speed and brifters (will work with your 6 speed Suntour):
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-MF-HG3...ywords=7+speed
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-ST-A07...o+tourney+a070


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I slowly "parts bin" upgraded a Trek 470 last winter. Didn't get a chance to ride it this spring as a nice Cannodale R1000D caught me eye, so I sold the Trek before getting more than 1km on it.

for the Trek, I only did the following:
- new seat
- quill adapter so I could use a more modern stem/bar
- new wheels. I put the exsiting RSX cassette on the new hub with a few spaces (it was a 10 speed cassette hub, the RSX was 7 speed)
- found an old Trek Bonded aluminum fork (from a 2300 I think) that almost match the blue 470, so I used it and lightened it up by a pound
- found some new brakes so I added those too.
- seat post was good which was lucky as trek used a less available size of 26.6 (instead of 27.2)




I removed/replaced some things I wanted to keep before I sold it (bars/stem/rack) and it looked like this when I sold it...











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Buy a whole new bike
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Brazen Bicycles took a Trek 360 and really spruced it up ... Dura-ace and Ultegra all around. 7-speed, too.
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Thanks for the advice, guys! We've already swapped in a nice seat and tuned the breaks and derailleurs. It's a sweet ride as is. Getting the wheels trued will be next.

In case the wheels need to be replaced, what make and model would be compatible? The rear hub is indeed 126 mm.
If the rims are toast you can replace just the rims. Either pay someone to relace the hubs to some new/used rims or get a book and do it yourself.
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I really can't see spending the $90 needed for new cables, a tune, a double hub rebuild, and a double truing; and I'm sure those tires haven't been swapped since Clinton was in office.

If you really want a project, sell this Trek on Craigslist and spend $200 on something made in the last 20 years, and make that your project to learn from. Try for 130mm rear spacing and index-shifting, otherwise just figure out that Flux Capacitor and get that thing to 88, dude.
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