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Pepperspray v. Dog

Old 06-08-13, 01:56 PM
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Pepperspray v. Dog

Couple of places along my route with dogs that give fairly serious chase. I've been run into oncoming traffic, I know someone else has been bit, and I don't think the authorities really care.

Last summer I clocked one of them with my frame pump as he made the jump for my ankle...full velocity swing to the jaw, and we didn't see him for the rest of the year. But his memory has faded and now he's back.

I'm thinking of getting some pepper spray now. A blast of that might keep them away, and give the owners a nice mess to clean up too.

Or maybe an onion-heavy meatball. I heard once that onions are toxic to dogs...
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Originally Posted by Banzai View Post
Couple of places along my route with dogs that give fairly serious chase. I've been run into oncoming traffic, I know someone else has been bit, and I don't think the authorities really care.

Last summer I clocked one of them with my frame pump as he made the jump for my ankle...full velocity swing to the jaw, and we didn't see him for the rest of the year. But his memory has faded and now he's back.

I'm thinking of getting some pepper spray now. A blast of that might keep them away, and give the owners a nice mess to clean up too.

Or maybe an onion-heavy meatball. I heard once that onions are toxic to dogs...
pepper spray - ok
poisoning the dog - NOT ok
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Try a bit of clorox on your shoes, and maybe a dilute in a squirt gun. Pepper spray isn't much of a deterrent to dogs that have had Jalapenos or curry and like peppers
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Originally Posted by cuzzinit View Post
Try a bit of clorox on your shoes, and maybe a dilute in a squirt gun. Pepper spray isn't much of a deterrent to dogs that have had Jalapenos or curry and like peppers
How many dogs do you know sitting around having a bowl of curry?

I've never heard that about onions... but you'll basically be throwing him a treat, that might not have the desired effect.
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I think you want the bear spray. It will immobilize just about anything. I think there's one brand that shoots a pretty tight stream of the stuff which makes it easier to connect with the target from a distance. Make sure you can outrun the owner though. Some of them don't take kindly to their precious attack dogs being pepper sprayed.
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In some countries they serve dog with curry.

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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
How many dogs do you know sitting around having a bowl of curry?

I've never heard that about onions... but you'll basically be throwing him a treat, that might not have the desired effect.
If it distracts him enough to break off pursuit, then it has the desired effect.
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Old 06-08-13, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
In some countries the serve dog with curry.
California ?


Dogs get scraps from the table, That's how dogs get curry.... or at least the lucky ones
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Keep in mind if you aren't moving fast the wind might spray low grade mace back towards you but bear spray is pretty powerful against the wind so you might be good with that or try to find a spray that shoots more of a stream of goo.

I've fed wild dogs known to bite humans meatballs with rat poison, xylitol, antifreeze, and crushed glass and it had no affect.
Onions won't do anything.
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Sprinting while aiming and shooting pepper spray...umm...I need to work on my riding skills.
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The "Halt" spray works and is easy to carry. If there was one known perp I think I would try the bear spray and give him a soaking he would not soon forget.
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Old 06-08-13, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by robble View Post
pepper spray - ok
poisoning the dog - NOT ok
^^this.



poisoning a dog makes you a criminal, at least in this state.
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I was actually joking about the meatballs; but holy cow, ttakata certainly dissuaded me even if I had been thinking it.

Otherwise I've mostly been questioning my own ability to shoot and ride, and of course the consequences of the wind.

But I'm getting sick of those eff-ing dogs...
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Old 06-08-13, 04:07 PM
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Somehow I think the kind of folks eating curry aren't the kind of folks who have aggressive dogs running around loose. . . Unless they've started selling curry at Walmart. Then we're in trouble.
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I carry one of these from time to time, shoots a glob of gel. It's compact, but you only get two shots at it!

https://www.kimberamerica.com/pepperblaster
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Just HTFU and outsprint the little mutt. Jeez
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Some suggestions. First someone in another thread said most of his rides are in a 2.7 mile loop near his house. So find a little safe route and ride yourself dizzy. Assuming you don't like that, most dogs have at least a minimal amount of training. When you see them use a stern "no" in your best alpha voice and then try something like "go home" until you find something they understand. Finally drive there and find the owner. Talk with them and explain you don't want their dog hit by a car and add they are liable should you have an accident. Remember the average BF cruising speed is 28 mph so that's enough to cause sinus damage. If you can identify the owner and tell police you talked with them and it didn't do any good, you'll likely get some action by them as opposed to a call that some dog chased you.
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Originally Posted by kenji666 View Post
Just HTFU and outsprint the little mutt. Jeez
Makes me laugh - I was on my lunch ride and woke a pitbull sleeping in the shade in his front yard, right by the road. No whack with a teeny roadie pump gonna faze him. So it's a race. Found that I needed 24.5 mph to drop him - after I realized he was having a blast just running! If a dog could smile, his was ear to ear, just out for a good run and watching the fat boy try and out run him.

Fortunately, loose dogs are the exception here in Oregon, compared with the southern states. I ride a lot in Alabama - lots of dogs there. But the drivers in Oregon make up for the lack of dogs - and the drivers in Alabama are just the opposite. So, trade one hazard for another.

I'd rather deal with dogs, myself.
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I have bought the pepperspray designed for dogs that shoots in a fine spray pattern. They are worthless. They are hard to aim while riding and would only work if you hit the dog perfectly in the face.

I also though have the bear spray that I use hiking out west. This stuff will knock down any dog and he will quickly learn to never chase a rider again. I have never tried it on a dog but I have tested it several times before hiking trips and it is obvious that it would easily stop any grizzly bear, man, dog, etc.. I would definitely get it out if I had a problem dog that I thought might jeopardize my health.
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I've only been chased by a dog a couple of times but each time I just used my water bottle and gave them a blast.Totally surprised them and got them off the chase.
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Originally Posted by cuzzinit View Post
Try a bit of clorox on your shoes, and maybe a dilute in a squirt gun. Pepper spray isn't much of a deterrent to dogs that have had Jalapenos or curry and like peppers
Huh ??? Unless Fido (or in the case of a French poodle, Phydeaux) has been rubbing jalapenos in his eyes and nose I don't think it matters much. I eat lots of spicy foods and I'm willing to bet pepper spray still hurts.

A cop friend gave me a tip for dogs that are more a PITA than vicious. He told me to get the pepper spray that sprays in a cone of droplets rather than a fog or foam. If the dog is just wanting a chase or dangerous play, squirt a line on the ground between you and the dog or just give a little blast in the dog's general direction. It will still be irritating to the dog's eyes and nose but not nearly as much as a full-on blast in the face. Most PITA dogs will give up or at least keep their distance once they get a wiff.

If you are being attacked and believe you are in danger of being bitten, then directly spraying the face is appropriate and more effective at stopping vicious dogs.

For the love of Pete, don't go around blasting away at every cockapoo that runs to the edge of the yard and yaps. Tailor your response to the reasonably perceived threat level. I've lived in rural areas where numerous dogs run loose (including feral dogs) and I can only think of one time I wish I would have had pepper spray with me. I've been barked at and chased countless times without fear of injury and the only dog related accident happened when a big dopey lab crashed into my front wheel.

As for poisoning dogs, you'd have to be a major arsehole. Most of the common poisons are slow acting and can leave an animal in agony for days or weeks. Even a dangerous animal deserves a more humane end, dangerous (or dangerously stupid) owners, not so much.

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Originally Posted by kenji666 View Post
Just HTFU and outsprint the little mutt. Jeez
This, honestly, it's just a dog. Tell it go home in an authoritative voice.
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I was riding once in extreme rural South Carolina on what we call a "tar and gravel" road (I've heard others call it chip stone or something) that really soaks up momentum. While riding up a hill on said road, I had a yard of dogs (not necessarily a unit of measurement, but a yard full of dogs - maybe 10) come running out at me, one snapping at my shoe just as I start to kick up my until-then leisurely pace. It seemed that they had a pack mentality and were deadset on using me as a chew toy. I grabbed the small can of Halt that I just so happened to have in my bento box and began spraying behind me as I pedaled in a one handed sprint uphill. I heard dogs sneezing but didn't look until I was well ahead.

As a rule, I do not take pepper spray with me on group rides (risk is too great, IMO) and rarely on known routes. On solo explorations, yes.
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