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Old 06-18-13, 05:49 AM
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Is this carbon bike a good buy?

I was planning to get a good aluminum bike for one to two hour rides three times per week usually alone during the week and in small groups on weekends. I am 64 years old. Some of the roads are rough at places.

I see this new (clearance) bike on sale. Claim it is a 2012 but it is white and Raleigh doesn't show that color for 2012.

Clearance price is $1300, list is supposed to be $1900

Raleigh Revenio Carbon 1.0 Bike - 2012 Specs


Specification Description
Best use Road cycling
Bike style Road bike
Bike frame material Carbon
Frame Carbon
Fork Custom Carbon
Crankset Shimano R565 Compact, 50/34
Bottom bracket Shimano external bearing
Shifters Shimano Tiagra
Front derailleur Shimano Tiagra
Rear derailleur Shimano Tiagra
Rear cogs Shimano Tiagra, 12-30, 10-speed
Number of gears 20
Brake type Rim brake
Brakes Shimano Tiagra
Brake levers Shimano Tiagra
Rims Weinmann DP18
Front hub Formula Alloy QR, 20h
Rear hub Formula Alloy QR, 24h
Wheel size 700c
Tires Vittoria Zaffiro, 700 x 23
Handlebar shape Drop bar
Handlebar Avenir 200 Series
Stem Avenir 200 Series
Seat post Avenir 200 Series
Saddle Avenir 200 Series
Pedals Road pedals with clips
Headset FSA Integrated
Chain KMC X10
Weight Unavailable pounds
Bike weight How we measure bike weight?
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EDIT:

This link:
https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...0#.UcBRTcr3MeQ

2012 white renvenio with Tiagra. $2000 MSRP.
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Did you get a chance to do a test ride? $1300 for a Tiagra equipped bike seems high even though the frame is "carbon". The bike does look attractive! (REI carries the 2013 model for $1700).


Personally, I would buy an aluminum CADD10/Allez (and use 25C tires) in roughly the same price range. Cannondale and Specialized bikes have better re-sale values and reviews.
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about a month ago, I found a kestrel rt1000 2012 with 105 for $1500. The only size available was a 56 cm, with a top tube length of 55.5 cm. I don't know if it's still there. if you want to find it, go to the kestrel website, and look up their dealers. This one is located in Indy.

I agree, I wouldn't pay $1300 for a tiagra bike, but that's just me. If the roads are rough, the first I'd try is 25 mm tires.
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Originally Posted by Midwest Ullrich

Personally, I would buy an aluminum CADD10/Allez (and use 25C tires) in roughly the same price range. Cannondale and Specialized bikes have better re-sale values and reviews.
Thanks. No test ride yet.

I have been looking at the Specialized bikes and there is a Specialized shop in the next county. Wouldn't one of the Specialized Secteur frames be more appropriate than the Allez for my age and the type of riding I intend to do?

Specialized's marketing about the Allez says, "perfect for aspiring racers, or as a winter training bike for more accomplished veterans." That's definitely not me and will not be in this life.
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from what I've read, the Revenio is a fine bicycle and 10spd Tiagra is nothing to scoff at either (essentially 5600 105 group from a couple years ago). $1300 for a Tiagra equipd carbon bike is acceptable. try to get a test ride and see for yourself, I'm betting you like it. then go take a test ride on some comparable AL bikes like the Cannondale Synapse Alloy 6 (tiagra equipd, msrp $1330) and see if it rides better, or a Sectuer Elite (tiagra msrp $1200). you may find the Revenio to be the bike you need, you may like the AL c'dale/spec better. lotsa great options out there, but let your own ass decide if the revenio is right for you.
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Originally Posted by BikeOnly
Thanks. No test ride yet.

I have been looking at the Specialized bikes and there is a Specialized shop in the next county. Wouldn't one of the Specialized Secteur frames be more appropriate than the Allez for my age and the type of riding I intend to do?

Specialized's marketing about the Allez says, "perfect for aspiring racers, or as a winter training bike for more accomplished veterans." That's definitely not me and will not be in this life.
IMO, claims and marketing means squat....get yourself on the bikes for long test rides and see how they feel. Have fun searching.
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Test ride this one:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...dcompact#specs

I have this one and love it. 71 years old.



Guessing that you have some hills in your area.

If so get a Compact Crank Set 50-34 or a Triple Crank Set.
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I would suggest the Trek Domane 2.3. It is not carbon but the stance and stock absorbing design is easier on us who have older bodies and backs. Love my Domane and if you talk to your locate Trek dealer I am sure you can work out a price agreeable to both of you.
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Get this one:
https://www.jensonusa.com/Road-Bikes/...Carbon-Bike-12
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Originally Posted by Elvo
I would pick the DB over the Raliegh. That bike looks great.
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Originally Posted by Midwest Ullrich
Did you get a chance to do a test ride? $1300 for a Tiagra equipped bike seems high even though the frame is "carbon". The bike does look attractive! (REI carries the 2013 model for $1700).


Personally, I would buy an aluminum CADD10/Allez (and use 25C tires) in roughly the same price range. Cannondale and Specialized bikes have better re-sale values and reviews.
That's about the price of Trek's Domane 2 series. Which has Tiagra.
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Originally Posted by pack88jp
I would suggest the Trek Domane 2.3. It is not carbon but the stance and stock absorbing design is easier on us who have older bodies and backs. Love my Domane and if you talk to your locate Trek dealer I am sure you can work out a price agreeable to both of you.
It's a really nice bike.
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If I'm being honest my 4600 Tiagra bike shifts better than my 5700 105 bike (yay for under-tape mounted derailleur cables!) I would not hesitate for a second to get Tiagra. But make sure the smaller hoods on the Tiagra works for your hands. My hands are not huge and the Tiagra hoods are too small for my primary bike (105 hoods are a much better fit for me.) BTW, $1300 for a carbon fiber frame and Tiagra is pretty cheap. The only place that sells carbon fiber road bikes cheaper is Bikes Direct and occasionally REI and Nashbar.

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If I'm being honest my 4600 Tiagra bike shifts better than my 5700 105 bike (yay for under-tape mounted derailleur cables!)
Horse hockey. Under tape cables don't cause anymore problems than what you create yourself. People who complain about it not working don't know how to cable a bike. As far as wearing out cable housing, I've got 5,840 combined miles on a 5700 105 bike and a 6700 Ultegra bike. Zero shifting issues, original Jagwire housings, and no complaints at all.
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Originally Posted by BikeOnly
Thanks. No test ride yet.

I have been looking at the Specialized bikes and there is a Specialized shop in the next county. Wouldn't one of the Specialized Secteur frames be more appropriate than the Allez for my age and the type of riding I intend to do?

Specialized's marketing about the Allez says, "perfect for aspiring racers, or as a winter training bike for more accomplished veterans." That's definitely not me and will not be in this life.
Yep, a Secteur would be a better choice for you than an Allez. I like the Secteur in a 105 or above pkg. But if your price range is about $1500 there are a lot of bikes out there to consider. If the roads are rough then I've found a full carbon frame to be a real plus. At your age (I'm not far behind) you deserve a bit of comfort.

I don't know that Raleigh and I associate them (perhaps unfairly) with supermarket bikes so I can't comment on that specific one other than to say that the components are roughly equivalent to the fit and finish you'd expect on an economy car - serviceable; might do fine but may not satisfy you over the long run.
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Originally Posted by kv501
Horse hockey. Under tape cables don't cause anymore problems than what you create yourself.
Most people with experience acknowledge that Shimano screwed up on its first attempt at running the derailleur cables under the bar tape (5700/6700/7900). The added cable friction results in inferior shift quality. It seems like they've fixed it on the new 9000 and 6800 11 speed products. The shift quality on my 5700 is not as good as the 4600 or 5500 setup on my old road bike. You may not agree with me but many people share my opinion...
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Originally Posted by Elvo
x2 This is a pretty great deal on a new bike with carbon and 105...my bro bought his Look bike from Jenson and it was a great transaction.
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Originally Posted by Mountain Mitch
I don't know that Raleigh and I associate them (perhaps unfairly) with supermarket bikes so I can't comment on that specific one other than to say that the components are roughly equivalent to the fit and finish you'd expect on an economy car - serviceable; might do fine but may not satisfy you over the long run.
one of my best friends has a mid90's raleigh mtb that his wife rides (he bought it new back then), it is very well built. generally speaking, had I not been around a few folks riding them I would tend to agree with you.
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Lots of good advice here. "Life" has interfered with my bike shopping, but I will get back to it soon.


Originally Posted by Elvo
Don't forget I am looking for "relaxed" geometry to fit my old body. That looks like an aggressive geometry.

I also would like to buy from one of our many dealers in the area.

I did get to the Specialized store and test rode a couple of bikes. This one felt the best to me - https://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...ecompact#specs

But we have plenty of dealers around and choice of brand is pretty wide open. I am not stuck on carbon either.
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Check this out. https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...ies/domane_2_0 The Domane sure has been good for this old body.
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Originally Posted by pack88jp
Check this out. https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...ies/domane_2_0 The Domane sure has been good for this old body.
How much have you ridden the bike? Are you satisfied with the Tiagra drivetrain?
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Well I have actually bought a Domane 5.2 for my ride as I wanted a nice bike and it is awesome. To decide on the 5.2 I test rode a couple of the Domane 2 bikes and they are what convinced me to go with the Domane bike. The ride was smoother that the Trek I owed as the road was still there but the bumps and roughness was smoothed out and not as sharp. The bike also has a more relaxed ride for us older fellows. You should at least try a couple of them out before you buy. I know there are good bike companies out there but I am a Trek fan. I like the bikes and I like the family owned thing. Guess I am old fashioned too. Let me know if you have any other questions. I am 6' 4" and will be 56 years old and I love my bike as it has been good on me.
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Originally Posted by pack88jp
Well I have actually bought a Domane 5.2 for my ride as I wanted a nice bike and it is awesome.
So you see I am writing a post looking for a "good buy" in a $1300 bike and you recommend a $3700 bike???
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Originally Posted by BikeOnly
So you see I am writing a post looking for a "good buy" in a $1300 bike and you recommend a $3700 bike???
No I am telling you to check out the Domane 2 series. I had a 2.3 Alpha and I was looking at getting a Madone. They suggested I ride a Domane and see what I thought. After studying them I decided to give them a try and after riding the Domane 2 it was so much better than my 2.3 Alpha I decided to buy a Domane instead. I am saying try the Domane 2 series as I believe that is in that price range. My LBS sales quite a few of them because of the ride. If I bought another 2 series it would be a Domane. My son 22 fell in love with the Domane 2 and he rides a Madone 4.5 which he still has but said the Domane 2 was smoother on the rough roads. Do what you want but check one out all is all I am saying. Sorry for the confusion.
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