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Rip van winkle: Looking for a bike (not carbon or cannondale)

Old 06-28-13, 07:53 AM
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Rip van winkle: Looking for a bike (not carbon or cannondale)

A few years ago, i re-engaged in biking. When I left biking, there were about three carbon fiber bikes on the market (kestrel, look and giant). So 25 years later i woke up and time and technology had passed me by. Also i'm pretty sheltered brand wise, since I've only owned cannondales in the last 25 years. with the exception of one rocky mountain mtb steel frame.

My current road bike is about 25years old and still rides well. It's a cannondale criterium from around 1989-90. It still rides fast, but I don't feel like upgrading it or modifying it other than basic replacement parts. It is a bit of a harsh ride.

I bought a cannondale caadx to be my commuter and training bike. this has worked out great, but i was thinking that maybe something with a more aggressive geometry for road racing would be a better fit to my evolving needs.

activity: fitness, training and occassional race for a triathalon
Looking for the following: not carbon or cannondale (nothing against cannondale). durability. willing to invest a few thousand if needed.

Any suggestions for bikes would be great.
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How about a Felt F75?
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How about Kestrel, Look or Giant? What is available in your LBS? Go visit them.
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How about the new Ritchey steel frame (gun metal color looks awesome), classic polished stem & seatpost, 11 speed sram force and a pair of hand built wheelset?
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...or custom, or semi-custom. You can get the color and geometry you want, and all sorts of other things.

Gunnar, Bishop, Ira Ryan, IF, maybe a Breadwinner?
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Thanks this is helping me narrow down some choices. As for my LBS. They only carry Trek, Bianchi, Fuji and Colanago.
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Thanks this is helping me narrow down some choices. As for my LBS. They only carry Trek, Bianchi, Fuji and Colanago.
Those are all excellent bikes. You probably wouldn't go wrong with any of those.

Why not carbon? At this point its a very mature technology. As you pointed out its now 25+ years old. Before dismissing it, try riding a carbon bike.

If not carbon, what frame composition are you looking for? Aluminum is the most common (usually on cheaper bikes), followed by carbon. Beyond that there's still steel around or its more exotic cousin Titanium.
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Your canondale caad has racing geometry, you're not going to find anything much more agressive.

And if you're looking to do triathlons, you want a TT bike, not a road bike.
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why not carbon? I'm a klutz. For the same reason i don't wear white pants.
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Colnago Master X-Light.
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Originally Posted by rat fink
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SuperSix ?
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Something in the titanium line perhaps?
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A Giant TCR SL? Custom Spooky? Go a little pricier and get a Firefly?
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I know you said no Cannondale, but the CAAD10 is the best (production at least) aluminum race frame out there
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I agree. Light bike with ultegra for 2-2200
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There are a bajillion bike brands out there making good stuff out of non-carbon. You really need to go to the shops, look online, find something that really appeals to you.

Probably you should at least narrow it down to steel, titanium, or aluminum as a starting point. Ti sounds good if you want something different and durable.
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Lynskey titanium? There isn't one on every corner, American made. frame will last a long time.
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perfect choice.
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Originally Posted by commputer
why not carbon? I'm a klutz. For the same reason i don't wear white pants.
Carbon is more reparable than aluminum, surprisingly so, and unless you're dealing with a super light frame the frames are pretty tough. I've flown with a carbon bike (TCR, also a half carbon SuperSix) in a soft case many times with no problems.

Having said that I own a (custom) welded aluminum frame. If I could buy a carbon frame in my fit/size I would. To be able to fix a shattered frame for under $1000, and substantially damaged frames for $400, that's pretty good. If I even sort of bent my aluminum frame I'd have to buy another one because cold setting ("bending") doesn't work beyond a certain point, and a trashed aluminum frame isn't easily reparable if at all.

The Cannondale crit bike you have is extremely rough riding compared to the current bikes of pretty much any brand. The front end has an aluminum fork with a steel steerer and transmits shock really well. I know because I still have mine. I got the next gen bike (Cannondale 2.8) and even that was much more comfortable than the 3.0. You'll be amazed at the ride of the current race bikes compared to that crit bike.

Of the brands you mention Trek and Fuji have a bigger audience with amateur racers, at least around here. If you're serious about tris, the tris you would do are basically flat, and you can use the CAADX for group rides then you might consider a tri-specific bike. If the tris are hillier (like they are around here) then a road bike with clip on aero bars might serve you well, and that would allow you to use the same bike, minus the clip on bars, in group rides and such.

Other than that there are a gazillion bikes out there to try, and your price range is in the middle of everything. Good luck!
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Anything in the range of $1-1.5k is gonna be a lot different than your 25-year old bike, and ride and function really well. You don't have to spend a lot to have a lot of fun and get some exercise. People dismiss aluminum frames, but they can be really great values and give up nothing to other materials for 99%+ of riders. A good website to shop at least for reference is BikesDirect, which sells a large range of good quality but often generic-ish bikes at low prices.
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