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Creakyknees 07-09-13 09:45 PM
I bet I can kick all your asses with my flat pedals on my 29er mtb.

justkeepedaling 07-09-13 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Creakyknees (Post 15833169)
I bet I can kick all your asses with my flat pedals on my 29er mtb.
^You're trying too hard. Remember, this is the 41. Also, what is your max speed on the flats when you dial it up to 400 on that thing

caloso 07-09-13 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 15832905)
this makes no sense.
i don't see how this is possible unless you were lifting your leg purposefully.
because otherwise physics would dictate your foot rides the pedal up as it forces your leg upward because your other foot is forcing the other pedal downward.
and i doubt you were downstroking so hard that the upward force was launching your foot off the pedal.
Not so much purposefully as habitually. Because I normally ride clipped in and have gotten used to pulling up in low cadence-high torque situations like standing starts.

LesterOfPuppets 07-10-13 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 15833095)
The one thing that hasn't been discussed in the pedal retention debate is centrifugal force. I suspect that it is the reason why pedal retention becomes important at much higher cadences because the higher speed of the foot/leg mass results in a tendency for the foot to fly away from the pedal.
Oh yes. Fixed gear downhill sans retention??? I shudder to think.

roadwarrior 07-10-13 02:37 AM
12pages....lol...if ever a thread defined this place, this is it.

Koroviev 07-10-13 03:02 AM
No such thing as centrifugal force.

coasting 07-10-13 03:32 AM
i didn't realise riding a bike was this complicated.

roadwarrior 07-10-13 04:13 AM
Originally Posted by coasting (Post 15833568)
i didn't realise riding a bike was this complicated.
It's not. Until you do a "study". Lol...

Rowan 07-10-13 04:17 AM
Originally Posted by Koroviev (Post 15833545)
No such thing as centrifugal force.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a useful description to describe what is happening when the foot wants to move away from the centre of the rotating cranks.

Even this website

http://phun.physics.virginia.edu/top...ntrifugal.html

says this:

Since the centrifugal force appears so real, it is often very useful to use as if it were real.

RT 07-10-13 04:43 AM
Originally Posted by roadwarrior (Post 15833534)
12pages....lol...if ever a thread defined this place, this is it.
...and without our friend Gerry Hull :-\

the sci guy 07-10-13 07:14 AM
Originally Posted by caloso (Post 15833206)
Not so much purposefully as habitually. Because I normally ride clipped in and have gotten used to pulling up in low cadence-high torque situations like standing starts.
i'll allow it

pallen 07-10-13 07:21 AM
Originally Posted by Creakyknees (Post 15833169)
I bet I can kick all your asses with my flat pedals on my 29er mtb.
Yeah, but you could do it so much better with clipless pedals.

TampaRaleigh 07-10-13 07:34 AM
Originally Posted by pallen (Post 15833914)
Yeah, but you could do it so much better with clipless pedals.
Yes, but only if you use SPD style pedals/shoes. If I try to kick anything with my road shoes/Look cleats, my other food tends to slip out from under me and I fall down. Thus: platform and spd pedals make you more efficient ass-kickers.

RJM 07-10-13 07:58 AM
So, in the end, foot retention and clipless pedals are totally awesome....thought so.

RT 07-10-13 07:58 AM
Our Wednesday breakfast ride at work featured a discussion on clipless today. None of us are racers, and only one guy goes with clips. The conversation lasted about three minutes, advice was shared on SPD/Crank Bros/Clips, then we rode to work.

It reminds me that this thread started as a molehill and it has become a mountain.

thump55 07-10-13 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by RJM (Post 15834060)
So, in the end, foot retention and clipless pedals are totally awesome....thought so.
You can't end this.

I got a cracked bong and an autographed nude picture of Bob Roll that says this thread makes it all the way to Paris.

RT 07-10-13 09:48 AM
Originally Posted by thump55 (Post 15834557)
You can't end this.

I got a cracked bong and an autographed nude picture of Bob Roll that says this thread makes it all the way to Paris.
That is some surreal imagery right there. Hilarious.

LesterOfPuppets 07-10-13 09:49 AM
Rode platforms last night.

Riding SPD this morning.

I'll still be slow.

RJM 07-10-13 09:50 AM
Originally Posted by thump55 (Post 15834557)
You can't end this.

I got a cracked bong and an autographed nude picture of Bob Roll that says this thread makes it all the way to Paris.
I really want that picture.

pallen 07-10-13 09:50 AM
:roflmao2:

RT 07-10-13 09:54 AM
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 15834590)
Rode platforms last night.

Riding SPD this morning.

I'll still be slow.
There's a haiku in there, somewhere.

Bah Humbug 07-10-13 10:02 AM
Originally Posted by RT (Post 15834616)
There's a haiku in there, somewhere.
Could work as:

Rode platforms last night
Rid'n SPD this morning
I will still be slow

At least, by my counting.

StanSeven 07-10-13 10:07 AM
Originally Posted by roadwarrior (Post 15833596)
It's not. Until you do a "study". Lol...
As well as ignore key parts to fit.

This is interesting enough to get a government grant to study more

cooker 07-10-13 10:22 AM
Originally Posted by gregf83 (Post 15833152)
Can't open link (maybe blocked by work network?)

gregf83 07-10-13 11:10 AM
Originally Posted by cooker (Post 15834759)
Can't open link (maybe blocked by work network?)
I fixed the original post. It should work now.


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