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Talk me out of buying Ksyriums

Old 07-05-13, 06:19 PM
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Talk me out of buying Ksyriums

Mavic bashing is all too common and I for one have been on the train for many years. Their skinny rims, poor aerodynamics and high prices are a downside. But after riding countless high end commercial and hand built alloy and carbon wheels I can't help but think those ksyrium elites I had 4 years ago were probably the best crit wheels I ever had. All the deep wheels and wide wheels and light wheels, well their marketing hype didn't translate that well to on the road performance. Maybe these wheels were better suited for something else, TT's or climbing or FOR SHOW???

What I really want in a crit wheel is something that just jumps out of the corners and won't cost an arm and a leg to replace. I plan on using them as my everyday wheels as well but that won't be nearly as abusive as my time racing will be.I have I have determined that only an alloy wheel with a light rim but is still somehow incredibly stiff can provide me with the feeling I so desire. For example my 1290gram stan's notubes (340gram rims) didn't hold up on the stiffness end. And my new dura ace 9000 c50s are really stiff but have 600+ gram rims.

So following these desires please talk me out of a set of ksyriums, better yet show me something better.

PS I'm a shop guy so mavic and other brand names are deeply discounted vs handbuilts (small discount) and direct to consumer(no discount)
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Old 07-05-13, 06:29 PM
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Old 07-05-13, 06:49 PM
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I like my elites. They do what I ask of them and shaved over a pound off the bike. They look good and have been reliable. Even if I raced it would not be the wheels holding me back.
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You're a shop guy, you should source some good rims and hubs and build yourself a set of wheels that's to your liking. You should get a good discount on parts too. Just one shop guy sharing his opinion with another.
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Old 07-05-13, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadMike View Post
You're a shop guy, you should source some good rims and hubs and build yourself a set of wheels that's to your liking. You should get a good discount on parts too. Just one shop guy sharing his opinion with another.
Trust me I have looked into it. It doesn't end up being that cheap. I have also had a set of handbuilts hed belgiums with dt swiss 240s 24/28 and I still felt like the ksyriums were more responsive. Is there a more responsive handbuilt option out there?
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Old 07-05-13, 07:33 PM
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Ksyrium's are great. Stiff, light, very responsive, durable, and did I say stiff? If there was one drawback it would be that the ride may be a tad more harsh than an equivalent carbon set, but they're not ridiculous. I've abused mine over many thousands of miles with only a very minor truing needed once for the back.

BTW....mine are the SL's (or whatever they call the lightest set these days) with zircal spokes, which is the pair I'd recommend.

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Old 07-05-13, 07:37 PM
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I love Ksyrium Elites. You will too.
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Old 07-05-13, 07:37 PM
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I love my Ksyrium elites. I do think that wide rims with 25s is prob better though for both handling and comfort.
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Old 07-05-13, 07:41 PM
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What's with the trend toward wider rims anyway? What's the advantage?
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Old 07-05-13, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kenji666 View Post
What's with the trend toward wider rims anyway? What's the advantage?
wider rims allow a 23mm tire to sit better which leads to better aerodynamics, lower rolling resistance, better handling and to you can run lower pressures since there is a reduced chance of pinch flats.
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I love my Elites as well. They are at least ten years old and are fantastic...they are my everyday wheels and probably have over 30k miles on them.
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Don't buy them. You will regret it. It is a known fact that only deep carbon wheels will make you a true cyclist. Its true
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Old 07-05-13, 11:52 PM
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Camagnolo Shamal Ultra 2 way. Everything you want, stiff, light, fast, look great.
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Old 07-06-13, 12:19 AM
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I think there are better choices in that price range.
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Get these: http://www.wiggle.com/campagnolo-zon...cher-wheelset/
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Old 07-06-13, 07:25 AM
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Can you explain exactly what this "responsiveness" is? I've never understood it.
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Old 07-06-13, 07:42 AM
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Don't buy them. You will regret it. It is a known fact that only deep carbon wheels will make you a true cyclist. Its true
Not everyone has your insecurities.
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Not everyone has your insecurities.
Pretty sure that was tongue-in-cheek.
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Not everyone has your insecurities.
Simmer down dude. I was being sarcastic.
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Old 07-06-13, 08:20 AM
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So was I.
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Old 07-06-13, 08:46 AM
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We need a sarcasm color on this forum. Seriously.

All the cool forums are doing it.
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I'm down. Good idea
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Old 07-06-13, 09:50 AM
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Hmmm. I have a dislike of elitist cyclist d-baggery, sarcastic or real.

But I'm a purest when it comes to forum jackassing. If you don't get it, too bad.
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Old 07-06-13, 09:56 AM
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But back to the OP.

I'm not a mavic fan, but they do have a rep for being stiff and strong at the expense of weight and aerodynamics (for the price). If that is what you want and you are getting a good discount then I don't see why you shouldn't go back to what makes you happy.

People with Fulcrums also seem happy for the same reasons so you may want look at them for another pre-built option.
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