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Old 07-09-13, 04:45 PM
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Bike Island bikes

Does anyone have experience with these? It seems like they sell scuffed/dinged Bikes Direct bikes. If anyone has experience I'd like to know if the descriptions are usually accurate. Thanks!
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My Motobecane Mirage was supposed to have scuffed crank and drop outs on the fork. If they were there, I couldn't see them. I have also purchased a frame through them. Reputable sellers.
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on the bike island website header - you run your mouse pointer over the freakishly sunburned man under the palm tree, his blond friend in a bikini joins him. then its party time.
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My Motobecane Mirage was supposed to have scuffed crank and drop outs on the fork. If they were there, I couldn't see them. I have also purchased a frame through them. Reputable sellers.
Thank you! I just moved to a more hilly area and the single speed just wasn't working out. Needed a cheap road bike and just bought a Motobecane Mirage from them.
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Thank you! I just moved to a more hilly area and the single speed just wasn't working out. Needed a cheap road bike and just bought a Motobecane Mirage from them.
Removed DT shifters and added 9 speed levers/drivetrain



The frame I got at BI

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on the bike island website header - you run your mouse pointer over the freakishly sunburned man under the palm tree, his blond friend in a bikini joins him. then its party time.
Hover over the bike and she leaves...I wonder if they're trying to allude to something.
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Removed DT shifters and added 9 speed levers/drivetrain



The frame I got at BI

Nice! Seemed like a good bike for the money.
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Could be wrong, but I remember seeing somewhere that Bike Island is owned by BD
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Could be wrong, but I remember seeing somewhere that Bike Island is owned by BD
They are somehow related, but their items ship from different parts of Texas.
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They are somehow related, but their items ship from different parts of Texas.
Same company. I would assume BI ships out from the warehouse where the BD returns go to!
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Originally Posted by bikebreak View Post
Same company. I would assume BI ships out from the warehouse where the BD returns go to!
In my years on this forum and having seen all of the BD threads (fewer these days), I have not yet heard of anyone returning a bike. It is an unwieldy proposition to disassemble and box a bike for shipping/return, and the bikes I have received from BD have been as promised. Not sure if you are inferring that you don't get what you pay for.
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Back several years ago, Bike Island, Bikes Direct, and Cycle Spectrum were all operating out of the same place in Plano (Cycle Spectrum was the retail store, other two were internet only). You had to look up their addresses and compare fax numbers, etc., to deduce that. I don't know the exact connection. I think it would be to their advantage to promote the connection. If you own three businesses and you're proud of them, you cross-advertise on the other's websites. They seem to try to hide that fact.
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Bikeshop Warehouse is also somehow related to the BikesDirect empire.

I have a GT I purchased from Bikeisland. Based on the massive amount of various GT bikes I've built up in the shop I can definitely say the BikeIsland bike was some sort of return. The masking tape, recycled cardboard protectors and zipties were a dead giveaway. Factory bikes always come a specific way and it was obvious that my GT was repacked by someone who was familiar with this process but not an expert. No issues and it's been riding fine. The price discount was pretty awesome as well.

Looked more like a showroom bike than anything since it had almost no wear and just some scuffed cranks.
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In my years on this forum and having seen all of the BD threads (fewer these days), I have not yet heard of anyone returning a bike. It is an unwieldy proposition to disassemble and box a bike for shipping/return, and the bikes I have received from BD have been as promised. Not sure if you are inferring that you don't get what you pay for.
I have a BD bike. It was "as promised" except for the weight.

Not a big deal to pack a bike in a box, especially if you keep the original box and packing materials.

Not inferring anything, just saying BI sells defective BD bikes. I imagine some of their stock is BD bikes that got damaged in shipping so delivery was refused by the buyer.
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Back several years ago, Bike Island, Bikes Direct, and Cycle Spectrum were all operating out of the same place in Plano (Cycle Spectrum was the retail store, other two were internet only). You had to look up their addresses and compare fax numbers, etc., to deduce that. I don't know the exact connection. I think it would be to their advantage to promote the connection. If you own three businesses and you're proud of them, you cross-advertise on the other's websites. They seem to try to hide that fact.
Do you think they want people to believe that they have other options? Marketing ploy perhaps?
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6 View Post
Do you think they want people to believe that they have other options? Marketing ploy perhaps?
i think some companies do that, so essentially they are competing against themselves. Which could possibly over saturate the market for other competition.
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I have a BD bike. It was "as promised" except for the weight.
Non-issue, really. Would you return a bike because of weight?

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Not a big deal to pack a bike in a box, especially if you keep the original box and packing materials.
Like putting toothpaste back in the tube for me. I build 'em, but don't like breaking them down for shipping.

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Not inferring anything, just saying BI sells defective BD bikes. I imagine some of their stock is BD bikes that got damaged in shipping so delivery was refused by the buyer.
Undoubtedly in most cases, either from the manufacturer or from the customer. The scratch n' ding I purchased looks brand spankin' new though.
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Do you think they want people to believe that they have other options? Marketing ploy perhaps?
Probably tax issues and maybe employee rights/insurance issues.
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I always thought of Bikes Direct as more of a "complete bike" website and Bike Island as more of the "components and accessories for bikes" website.

If you buy a bike from BD, they recommend you go to BI for whatever else you might need in the email they send you after purchase.
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i think some companies do that, so essentially they are competing against themselves. Which could possibly over saturate the market for other competition.
I don't know what the thinking is. As mentioned above, BD and BI don't actually compete (whole bikes vs components), nor do they compete directly with Cycle Spectrum (internet only vs in-store only).
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I bought my Motobecane Le Champ Ti from Bike Island. It had a $150 discount due to a "scuff on carbon fork".

It arrived promptly and the scuff was so minor, it would probably need to be pointed out to me. A great bike value made even greater!
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Same company. I would assume BI ships out from the warehouse where the BD returns go to!
And overstocks, components, take-offs, and other stuff that doesn't quite fit into the BikesDirect concept.

I bought a set of fixie wheels from them a few years ago. They were just what I needed.
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Okay, this is why BD/Cycle Spectrum/Bike Island always sound totally flaky to me...

BikeIsland.com on their website lists their address as:
1901 N. Haskell
Suite 110
Dallas, Texas 75204
(972) 272-3627

But, if you go there, it's actually a World Cycle store (see attached photo, I swung by on the way home!). Looking on the World Cycle website, they show the same address, different phone, different hours. https://www.worldcycle-bikes.com/
(214) 821-2453

There is a Motobecane logo on the site, and as far as I know, that's only a BD product.

A different address for BikeIsland, found by googling the phone number, is in Garland:
300 S. Kirby St, Ste C, Garland, TX 75043
Following the links for reviews leads to a Houston Store, which Streetview shows as "Bike Shop", at 2901 South Shepherd Drive, Houston, TX 77098, with the same phone number as on the website. Googling that address shows it to be a former Cycle Spectrum store. From a listing of bike shops, I find there used to be 3 Cycle Spectrum stores in Houston, a couple in Dallas, all of them apparently gone now.

Some reviews of BikeIsland here. These relate to a Houston store, maybe the Cycle Spectrum store?:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/bike-island-...8uSkzUI9tAsGsA

The CycleSpectrum website just shows stores in Jacksonville and Orlando. They used to list stores in Plano, Houston, somewhere in Arizona, etc.

Bike Shop Warehouse doesn't show address on the website, but googling them pulls up a BBB listing at: Phone: (800) 997-2858Fax: (713) 931-2453 2305 Eleanor Tinsley Way, Houston, TX 77069, contact David Sander, VP.
That address is an unmarked industrial building that is quite the vision of a bike shop (note the street number is on the building, so yes, that's the right spot!):
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2305+...116.38,,0,9.73

Mapquest shows that address to be Cycle Spectrum. You won't find many bike shops with a gravel parking lot!

So there you have it. Are you dealing with BikeIsland or World Cycle or BikesDirect or Cycle Spectrum or Bike Shop Warehouse or "Bike Shop" or who?

I might point out that I've read varying reviews and experiences of some of these companies, and have never seen anything to indicate any of them are a flat-out scam, but boy, they sure don't give you a warm fuzzy feeling when they change names and locations every few months, either.
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Originally Posted by StephenH View Post
Okay, this is why BD/Cycle Spectrum/Bike Island always sound totally flaky to me...

BikeIsland.com on their website lists their address as:
1901 N. Haskell
Suite 110
Dallas, Texas 75204
(972) 272-3627

But, if you go there, it's actually a World Cycle store (see attached photo, I swung by on the way home!). Looking on the World Cycle website, they show the same address, different phone, different hours. https://www.worldcycle-bikes.com/
(214) 821-2453

There is a Motobecane logo on the site, and as far as I know, that's only a BD product.

A different address for BikeIsland, found by googling the phone number, is in Garland:
300 S. Kirby St, Ste C, Garland, TX 75043
Following the links for reviews leads to a Houston Store, which Streetview shows as "Bike Shop", at 2901 South Shepherd Drive, Houston, TX 77098, with the same phone number as on the website. Googling that address shows it to be a former Cycle Spectrum store. From a listing of bike shops, I find there used to be 3 Cycle Spectrum stores in Houston, a couple in Dallas, all of them apparently gone now.

Some reviews of BikeIsland here. These relate to a Houston store, maybe the Cycle Spectrum store?:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/bike-island-...8uSkzUI9tAsGsA

The CycleSpectrum website just shows stores in Jacksonville and Orlando. They used to list stores in Plano, Houston, somewhere in Arizona, etc.

Bike Shop Warehouse doesn't show address on the website, but googling them pulls up a BBB listing at: Phone: (800) 997-2858Fax: (713) 931-2453 2305 Eleanor Tinsley Way, Houston, TX 77069, contact David Sander, VP.
That address is an unmarked industrial building that is quite the vision of a bike shop (note the street number is on the building, so yes, that's the right spot!):
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2305+...116.38,,0,9.73

Mapquest shows that address to be Cycle Spectrum. You won't find many bike shops with a gravel parking lot!

So there you have it. Are you dealing with BikeIsland or World Cycle or BikesDirect or Cycle Spectrum or Bike Shop Warehouse or "Bike Shop" or who?

I might point out that I've read varying reviews and experiences of some of these companies, and have never seen anything to indicate any of them are a flat-out scam, but boy, they sure don't give you a warm fuzzy feeling when they change names and locations every few months, either.

Then again, no one has complained about flat-out not receiving their bikes.
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