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BD stopped cutting corners, has the world come to an end?

Old 07-27-13, 09:04 AM
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BD stopped cutting corners, has the world come to an end?

Check out BD's new Le Champ Ti here.

The bike is full ultegra 6800, including the brakes, crankset and cassette, the stuff BD usually skim on. It even come with Shimano pedals instead of some no name ones. With Mavic wheels, ritchey pro kit and an serviceable ti frame... just what happened to their business philosophy.

Edit: wow I sound like a shill.

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Old 07-27-13, 09:28 AM
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I think they've always offered some of their bikes with full-brand gruppos. I see they still sell the Le Champ Ti with the Ultegra/FSA mix for much less than full Ultegra.
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Old 07-27-13, 11:13 AM
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I bought the Le Champ Ti with full Sram Apex ~18 months ago. I think they have been offering the Ti versions in complete groups all along.

And for what it's worth, a lot of manufacturers "skimp" on components - usually crankset & brakes. For example, the Cannondale caad10 105 comes with an FSA Gossamer crank and Tektro brakes.

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Old 07-27-13, 01:32 PM
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^^

Yes.
I bought the Synapse 5 105, which has Tektro brakes and Tiagra front derailleur.
I'm o.k., with the FSA crank, and actually, like it a lot, but pretty lame calling it
a 105 bike with only the brifters and R derailleur being 105.
Otherwise, very nice bike.

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Old 07-27-13, 01:53 PM
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The one that always got me was the Specialized Roubaix Pro, beautiful DA 9000 gearing but ultegra brakes, cheap wheels, etc. I don't have a problem with mixing components to keep price down but part of me always thinks, once you've hit a certain price point you might as well just charge a couple hundred bucks more... I mean the difference between $6k and $6300 give the 9000 brakes man!
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Old 07-27-13, 03:16 PM
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I agree, that's by no means a BD trait (cheaping out on a few components). I think that's standard business. In fact now that BD offers a full groupset that might give them an advantage in that market. I'd like full Ultegra on my next bike. I bought a CAAD9-1 with Dura Ace 7900 (not too pleased with it), but it came with crappy Tektro brakes and an FSA crank (somewhat necessary due to it being BB30), some KMC chain.
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Old 07-27-13, 03:24 PM
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Yes, they've always offered their top couple of bikes with full groupsets.
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I bought a cheap entry level bike many years ago from BD and was happy with the purchase. I have looked at them over the years to see what they offer and if you can do some very slight wrenching BD is one of the best values in the market.
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Old 07-27-13, 06:49 PM
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As said. BD is no worst than most. A lot of mfr.s skimp, even their high end $5k+ bikes. Especially on the cassette.
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Old 07-27-13, 06:53 PM
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Yup, I bought a venge last year that was advertised as a SRAM red bike. brakes are force though. I got a great deal but if it was full price it would have bothered me (maybe)
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I was going to buy this bike, but Lynskey made me a deal I couldn't say no to. Yes, I got Tektro brakes and FSA Gossemer cranks, but I'll upgrade those when the day comes to replace them. However, I would LOVE to have the Ultegra with 11-32 instead of my 12-28. That would be sweet.
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Old 07-27-13, 07:05 PM
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Great price!

I wonder how that particular frame rides?
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Nice tapered steerer, but I wish it came with disc brakes.
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That price is killer.
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Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
Great price!

I wonder how that particular frame rides?
There are quite a few reviews throughout BF, and from what I remember, every single one of them is overwhelmingly positive - and not from shills.
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Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
Great price!

I wonder how that particular frame rides?
Looks like they have changed the shape of the head tube on this upcoming model but I love the way mine rides. The company that makes the BD titanium frames is ORA Engineering in Taiwan.
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Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
Great price!

I wonder how that particular frame rides?

Of course, you have to buy it to find out how it rides or fits.
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Holy crap, 11-32 on the back. I was wondering why it had the long cage derailleur...
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I have the 2013 version of the Le Champ Ti frame (without the tapered headtube). Long story short, it's a good "all day" club/race frame. It's very smooth and comfortable over rough pavement and on long rides. Like most Ti frames it's not as stiff as a carbon race bike but the shaped tubes mean that it's not nearly as whippy as some. The frame is also butted, which is rare on a Ti bike at this price.

The geometry is actually fairly racy but I wouldn't consider it a dedicated race bike.

Manufacturing quality is excellent for this price: chunky "hooded" rear dropouts, nice welds, welded (not drilled inserts) bottle bosses, tight cable stops. Also, I think the frame is nice looking with the brushed finish (mine has no clear coat).

$1K isn't exactly cheap for a frame, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better deal.
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has this world gone upside down? no BD bash this time....I'm surprised...

that being said, I love my Moto sprint with almost full ultegra groupset (brake/crank/bb are not). and the best, got it for $900!
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Old 07-29-13, 01:28 PM
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I've been really happy with my Moto and I'll probably upgrade it to something like in the OP when the time comes.
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Old 07-29-13, 01:33 PM
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I've been really happy with my Moto and I'll probably upgrade it to something like in the OP when the time comes.
I'd probably get this down the road.
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ltegra_di2.htm
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I'd probably get this down the road.
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ltegra_di2.htm
Can't stand the dual-tone paint schemes they use on the LeChampion series, otherwise I'd consider them.

The titanium from the OP, on the other hand, that's pretty hot looking.
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Originally Posted by ericcc65 View Post
Can't stand the dual-tone paint schemes they use on the LeChampion series, otherwise I'd consider them.

The titanium from the OP, on the other hand, that's pretty hot looking.
I agree. The titanium looks sweet.
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