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Old 07-29-13, 12:59 PM
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carbon clincher wheelset

I did a quick search and didn't really find what i was looking for. (if there is a thread like this feel free to post a link)
So i'm looking for a carbon clincher wheelset around the €1000 point ($1300)
but i'm having problems choosing. Do i go for an alloy braketrack or not? Because i don't really know how big the heating issue still is today. Weight isn't really a factor.
I was thinking about the zipp 60's but the reynolds assault's might be good too...
Any suggestions or experiences are most welcome.

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Old 07-29-13, 01:10 PM
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It's my understanding that carbon wheels will definitely explode after 5000 km. ;-)

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Old 07-29-13, 01:22 PM
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60mm $1450 https://www.boydcycling.com/products/60mm-clincher.html

58MM $1099 https://www.williamscycling.com/Wheel...cher_p_42.html
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Old 07-29-13, 01:24 PM
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okay, just saw where you are located....don't know about shipping to there.
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Get in line for the November Rail 52s....they also have a UK distributor....
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Originally Posted by gc3
Get in line for the November Rail 52s....they also have a UK distributor....
I was about to bring these up. I have a pair due to arrive Friday.
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and how's the heat resistance on for example boyd, williams or novmeber?
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Originally Posted by chil2makefun
and how's the heat resistance on for example boyd, williams or novmeber?
All reports are that the Rail is great, though I don't have first-hand experience yet. Their statements during development are certainly extremely promising.
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Originally Posted by chil2makefun
and how's the heat resistance on for example boyd, williams or novmeber?
I can't speak for the other two, although I know they have taken steps for heat resistance. On ours it was our primary concern which is why it took about 14 months of development to release the rims.

No carbon clincher is "indestructible" and in all of the wheels we have sold for 2013 models we have had one failure. It was a 2.5 mile 10% average gradient downhill. The rider was just north of 200 pounds and the air temps were right at 90degrees F. Normal descent times for this are around the 3:40 to 4:00 minute range with an average speed of 34-36mph. It's a fairly wide open climb with no real switchbacks.
In this case the rider rode his brakes the entire way down the hill. He ended up averaging 16.7 mph (on a 10% downhill!), with a prolonged section averaging 12mph. After 9 minutes of this the rear wheel finally started to bow outward a little bit, initially he thought the wheel may have just been out of true. The front was perfectly fine still (we inspected it) and he was able to ride home.

I have a feeling even the carbon clinchers that say it's impossible to destroy them with heat would have suffered the same fate. We always want people to be knowledgeable about their equipment and it's proper uses, but I would say our new stuff is right up there with the best.
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love my HED Jet Express
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Originally Posted by chil2makefun
and how's the heat resistance on for example boyd, williams or novmeber?
ought to be good enough for all those mountains in Belgium....
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I was about to bring these up. I have a pair due to arrive Friday.

when did you order yours? Still waiting on word on mine... I am in the "almost in stock" portion of the sale.
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Originally Posted by coachboyd
I can't speak for the other two, although I know they have taken steps for heat resistance. On ours it was our primary concern which is why it took about 14 months of development to release the rims.

No carbon clincher is "indestructible" and in all of the wheels we have sold for 2013 models we have had one failure. It was a 2.5 mile 10% average gradient downhill. The rider was just north of 200 pounds and the air temps were right at 90degrees F. Normal descent times for this are around the 3:40 to 4:00 minute range with an average speed of 34-36mph. It's a fairly wide open climb with no real switchbacks.
In this case the rider rode his brakes the entire way down the hill. He ended up averaging 16.7 mph (on a 10% downhill!), with a prolonged section averaging 12mph. After 9 minutes of this the rear wheel finally started to bow outward a little bit, initially he thought the wheel may have just been out of true. The front was perfectly fine still (we inspected it) and he was able to ride home.

I have a feeling even the carbon clinchers that say it's impossible to destroy them with heat would have suffered the same fate. We always want people to be knowledgeable about their equipment and it's proper uses, but I would say our new stuff is right up there with the best.
thanks, this really makes me more comfortable taking the leap. I know there isn't a single wheel out there that's indestructable but you get my point

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ought to be good enough for all those mountains in Belgium....
Don't think so, most of the hills around here are made of cobles so these will be a job for my sturdy alloys
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Originally Posted by GamecockTaco
when did you order yours? Still waiting on word on mine... I am in the "almost in stock" portion of the sale.
Yours should be up soon... I was the second-to-last in the main pre-order, and I got my tracking number early this morning. It's currently sitting at the UPS store.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Yours should be up soon... I was the second-to-last in the main pre-order, and I got my tracking number early this morning. It's currently sitting at the UPS store.
SWEET! thanks for the update. I'm tired of patiently waiting... ready to ride those suckers!
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https://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/...ncher_wheelset

Myself: I bought a pair of 38mm deep, 21mm wide clinchers from CarbonZone. $450USD.

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Originally Posted by KantoBoy
https://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/...ncher_wheelset

Myself: I bought a pair of 38mm deep, 21mm wide clinchers from CarbonZone. $450USD.
a friend had some bad experiences with planet X
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Tons of brand-new good ones on eBay for $500 from reputable sellers. I think there's a whole thread on here about that somewhere.
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Originally Posted by chil2makefun

Don't think so, most of the hills around here are made of cobles so these will be a job for my sturdy alloys
Take a look at what Pro's ride in the Ronde.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Yours should be up soon... I was the second-to-last in the main pre-order, and I got my tracking number early this morning. It's currently sitting at the UPS store.
so...where's the review?
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I have basically beaten the snot out of a set of Farsports 50MM carbon clinchers with alloy braking (FSC-50) this year as everyday wheels and they have held up extremely well. The roads around here are absolutely terrible and these are very light wheels (~1.5Kg) for this type. The fact that I weigh only about 145 lbs may have something to do with this, but I'd say carbon wheels can be plenty durable.
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Originally Posted by gc3
so...where's the review?
Two days out to arrival, being as they were sitting at the UPS store in Laurel, MD, ready for shipment to me. I'll race them in my tri on Sunday. Slow your roll.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Slow your roll.
I thought the idea was to speed up your roll.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
I thought the idea was to speed up your roll.
Really? I thought deep carbon wheels were all about fashion.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Take a look at what Pro's ride in the Ronde.
i know they do use carbon rims but if they trash a set in one race they don't care and get a new one... i don't

I sent some e-mails and turns out, the rail 52 set is crazy expensive when i order from the uk distributor
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