Come on, dude. This is all fat people have.

I said nothing of skill, but rather, was referring to the amount of energy needed to descend vs. to climb. I should have made that more clear.

It's about having fun guys, if you're stressing over someone posting a segment on a downhill, you're doing it wrong.

That said, I will complain about the people that layer segments over one another. One very small climb near me has 4-5 segments going up it, most measuring close to the same distance. Really not all that necessary.

I like it!

Any segment up or downhill can be dangerous and Strava has a mechanism to mark any segment as such. In that case there is no leaderboard and no KOMs. If a descent has a leaderboard then evidently no one who has ridden it deemed it dangerous enough to flag.

Regardless of whether Strava exists, many riders will try and go fast on descents as it can be fun. You don't have to enjoy going fast and that's fine but some do.

That's like a clydesdale saying the same thing about climbs.

"You're just using gravity to slow other riders with higher body weight down''

Since it's the same hill, everyone gets the same assistance from gravity, therefore leveling the field. If you're going to start talking about heavier riders, again I can point to the uphills and say the same.

If it were that easy you would have all of the downhill KOM's.
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Strava, getting KOM's on my 50CC scooter since 2011...

Do I get to wear a pok-a-dot jersey if I am the kom?

It doesn't matter, anyone can buy one. But KOM or not, why would anyone want to wear a polkadot jersey?

It's always some kind of newb cyclist who hate on Strava. If you think Strava makes dangerous riders, you really haven't ridden enough.

Before Strava, there are plenty of wreckless and dangerous riders, most of which are racers. The typical amateur noob would stop at red lights. Most of the racers I rode with in Cali would blow lights and stop signs without even twitching. They would look both ways but they would only stop if cars were approaching. PRE STRAVA.

Lets fast forward to real racing and training. What the hell do you think racers have to do to get a 20min FTP test in? It's called dangerous riding. Is Strava involved? NO.

If you are gonna tell me that a 15min effort up a climb or a 2 minute descend is more dangerous than a 20min or 60min FTP test on the road then I know you're trolling or mentally challenged.

Even Strava thinks downhill segments are lamer than others...see, you can't set a goal for a downhill segment. :thumb:

Aren't they getting sued for precisely that right now? Not that I buy it, but it isn't about me.

Noob cyclist....:roflmao2:

This one? Strava wins dismissal of civil suit over Berkeley death

I'm thinking about the one where the cyclist killed the old woman, I believe (could be wrong) there is a suit attatched to that incident.

Doesn't matter though. I'm still sticking with my prediction. I bet in the future you won't be able to segment a downhill.

That cyclist was convicted in a criminal trial. The family is also suing the cyclist in civil court but I don't think Strava is involved.

people get sued all the time...doesn't matter.

FTP+ of 20 mins on open roads vs. sprinting up a hill for 5 minutes. One is done by racers, the other by amateurs. I want to honestly hear about you think the Strava KOM is more dangerous than doing a 20mins threshhold test.

Fify

Being a racer doesn't stop you from being an amateur.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2451/...9aa2e1bd8c.jpg
Maybe it matches his bike.

Now I know the opinion of a cat 6 poseur. Awesome.

Don't care what you think. Strava is no more dangerous than racers training on public roads.

Also join date: 2010 with 3k more posts than me. Not sure if troll.

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Alternatively, you could have a local KoM ride get dominated by a pro-race.

http://www.strava.com/segments/mt-di...hool-to-254731

Tour of California -- Stage 7. Most of the Top 10 times are from the same day. Nate English (#5) actually finished about 5th on that Stage, this is his time from a prior ride.

Everyone who doesn't think starva is super duper awesome is a troll. :roflmao:

Leave it to BF to complicate a simple notion :P I agree with you to a point, so while we're being relative (I am 10 lbs from a Clyde, yet my climbing is improving)... It comes down to this: What takes more endurance and energy and really, prowess - going up a mountain, or down it? Even in the Tour de France there is a jersey awarded to climbers. There is not one for descenders. No one approaches hills and says, "Whew. Thank GOD I get to climb now."

I am so much closer to KOM's on descents than climbs. It's not even close.