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If I luv my Tarmac - which Madone should I try/get?

Old 08-07-13, 12:20 PM
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If I luv my Tarmac - which Madone should I try/get?

So I guess I could ride off into the sunset on my Tarmac (expert 56 w/ 170 HT, 56.5 TT) , and be completely happy..
But that's not in the spirit of the 41, 'the look', OCPism
so iff'n I was to look at Treks, 2010 or newer models - which ones should I be lookin at?
could be complete bike or frame
I really don;t know...
ideally would be a 'Made in the US' frame...
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in the true spirit of the 41...go for this https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/proje.../madone7series

anything else will hold you back
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Originally Posted by cyclezen View Post
So I guess I could ride off into the sunset on my Tarmac (expert 56 w/ 170 HT, 56.5 TT) , and be completely happy..
But that's not in the spirit of the 41, 'the look', OCPism
so iff'n I was to look at Treks, 2010 or newer models - which ones should I be lookin at?
could be complete bike or frame
I really don;t know...
ideally would be a 'Made in the US' frame...
I just recently was looking at the Tarmac and Madone 4.5. I went with the Madone for several reasons. 1. I liked the ride a little better, more control IMO. 2. Ultegra versus 105 on the Tarmac. 3. Integrated DuoTrap sensor 4. I had a better feel from the bike shop I purchased from 5. I already own 3 other Trek mountain bikes so I was "staying in the family". 6. The price was much better thanks to the annual Trek sale so I go the 4.5 for less than a 3 series Madone.

As for Madone's made in the USA I think you have to step up to the 6 series to get that, but not 100% sure.
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Hey Seymour1910... you a rescue swimmer, pilot or what? Still on active duty? I'm an old P-3 AW and my son is a 2nd Gen AW as well as a rescue swimmer up in your neck of the woods. FLY NAVY!!
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Hey Seymour1910... you a rescue swimmer, pilot or what? Still on active duty? I'm an old P-3 AW and my son is a 2nd Gen AW as well as a rescue swimmer up in your neck of the woods. FLY NAVY!!
I was an AT when I was on active duty. I got out in 2011. Thanks for your service and and for all your son is sacraficing right now. I did get to fly a good amount with the AW's while I was at 26. We had some fun times out there.
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Originally Posted by seymour1910 View Post
I was an AT when I was on active duty. I got out in 2011. Thanks for your service and and for all your son is sacraficing right now. I did get to fly a good amount with the AW's while I was at 26. We had some fun times out there.
Thank you for your service as well... I flew during the cold war which was easy compared to what you probably flew in. My son is with HSC-84 and nothing made me more proud than to have the same wings that were tacked on me in 1988 tacked on him last year. Ride safe shipmate!
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I had a Madone 5.2 and now a 7.9. Both awesome bikes. You can't go wrong if you like the fit. But if you like the Tarmac so much I'd stick with it.
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Originally Posted by floridamtb View Post
Hey Seymour1910... you a rescue swimmer, pilot or what? Still on active duty? I'm an old P-3 AW and my son is a 2nd Gen AW as well as a rescue swimmer up in your neck of the woods. FLY NAVY!!
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I was an AT when I was on active duty. I got out in 2011. Thanks for your service and and for all your son is sacraficing right now. I did get to fly a good amount with the AW's while I was at 26. We had some fun times out there.
Holy *****, we're everywhere. My son is a brown shoe (AT) like you snobs, whereas I was in the real Navy (ET1).

(grabbing my popcorn, waiting for it...)
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I don't get it. Why would you want to ride a Trek if you ride a Tarmac Get a new SL4 or S-Works. It's only money.

If you must go Madone, at least go with a project 1 model, so you can pick the look.
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Originally Posted by IANative View Post
Holy *****, we're everywhere. My son is a brown shoe (AT) like you snobs, whereas I was in the real Navy (ET1).

(grabbing my popcorn, waiting for it...)
Effing AW... the only way to go! Our hats are off to your son as well!!!
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Madone 6 series, made in the states, PLENTY STIFF, very light. Been in love with the new design this year, I really enjoy the 7 but I think most people would be more than happy with a 6. Little shorter reach and shorter head tube than the Specialized but you can always get that fit dialed.
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Originally Posted by IANative View Post
Holy *****, we're everywhere. My son is a brown shoe (AT) like you snobs, whereas I was in the real Navy (ET1).

(grabbing my popcorn, waiting for it...)
well well well...this thread has been invaded by the ever "hanging on" black shoe. Everyone knows the real Navy is Naval Aviation.
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Originally Posted by seymour1910 View Post
well well well...this thread has been invaded by the ever "hanging on" black shoe. Everyone knows the real Navy is Naval Aviation.
Not that I'm criticizing our fly-boys... everybody knows the best pilots come out of the Navy... but suggesting that the REAL Navy is aviation... Show me the Navy aviators of the Revolutionary War, and we'll talk. Until then, see this other thread I started:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ists-on-the-41
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I agree, if you love your tarmac why switch to a madone? For the price you typically get crappy components on a Trek when compared to a Specialized. Heavy, cheap wheels, bars, stems, etc. The madone is a great frame but buying one as a complete bike doesn't make much sense. The '13 madone with it's fance new aeroness looks horrible in my opinion. I almost bought a '12 madone 5.2 until I had them show me it weighted in at 16 pounds 11 ounces. My Tarmac weighs 15 pounds for a very similiar price.
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Originally Posted by c_mack9 View Post
I agree, if you love your tarmac why switch to a madone? For the price you typically get crappy components on a Trek when compared to a Specialized. Heavy, cheap wheels, bars, stems, etc. The madone is a great frame but buying one as a complete bike doesn't make much sense. The '13 madone with it's fance new aeroness looks horrible in my opinion. I almost bought a '12 madone 5.2 until I had them show me it weighted in at 16 pounds 11 ounces. My Tarmac weighs 15 pounds for a very similiar price.
Interesting about the weight, my 2012 Madone 5.2 came in at 15.4 lbs. with the Mavic R-Sys wheelset.
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Interesting about the weight, my 2012 Madone 5.2 came in at 15.4 lbs. with the Mavic R-Sys wheelset.
The one I mentioned was a size 56 and had the bontrager race wheels on it I think. Ultegra bike, I'm not sure if they have any other build options on the 5.2
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Originally Posted by floridamtb View Post
I just recently was looking at the Tarmac and Madone 4.5. I went with the Madone for several reasons. 1. I liked the ride a little better, more control IMO. 2. Ultegra versus 105 on the Tarmac. 3. Integrated DuoTrap sensor 4. I had a better feel from the bike shop I purchased from 5. I already own 3 other Trek mountain bikes so I was "staying in the family". 6. The price was much better thanks to the annual Trek sale so I go the 4.5 for less than a 3 series Madone.
I made exactly the same decision in April, for the same reasons - i.e. the ones I've highlighted above. (The duotrap wasn't a critical part of the decision - just a nice-to-have...)

Also - trek has a very good warranty compared with most other manufacturers.

On the down-side ... I preferred the Tarmac's handling. Seemed to me it was more aggressive, and would would be far more precise in tight crit and group situations. 'Course, that assessment was made after just a few test rides on each bike. With more time on each, I might - or might not - change that view.
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Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
I had a Madone 5.2 and now a 7.9. Both awesome bikes. You can't go wrong if you like the fit. But if you like the Tarmac so much I'd stick with it.
not planning to get rid of the Tarmac.
Thinking more I need to sell my Old 1980 Colnago Super - just not riding it at all these past couple years, and a shame to have it just sitting in the attic space. Was the bike I raced/rode most from '80 thru mid '83 season, so it holds some good memories. But a shame to see it just sitting...

Trek - haven't really RIDDEN a trek since '04 - have tried some during that time - but if you don;t own it you really can't 'ride' it...
so, I guess I should look at Madone 6 series (for made in US) or consider the 5 series. I'm gonna keep my eyes open over the coming months.
I don;t really need it - but it's not about need... Bikes are just so kool, and I'd like to get some real saddle time on a Trek.
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
Madone 6 series, made in the states, PLENTY STIFF, very light. Been in love with the new design this year, I really enjoy the 7 but I think most people would be more than happy with a 6. Little shorter reach and shorter head tube than the Specialized but you can always get that fit dialed.
If he goes with a Project One 6 or 7, he can choose among the H1, H2 and H3 fits.

With the 5, he's stuck with H2.
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If he goes with a Project One 6 or 7, he can choose among the H1, H2 and H3 fits.

With the 5, he's stuck with H2.
There is no H3 fit offered on Madones anymore, it exclusive to the Domane now. I could be wrong about it not being offered on the lower level Madones but I know for a fact that on 6 & 7 series and Project 1 there is no H3. I talked to our rep and he confirmed.
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Originally Posted by IANative View Post
Not that I'm criticizing our fly-boys... everybody knows the best pilots come out of the Navy... but suggesting that the REAL Navy is aviation... Show me the Navy aviators of the Revolutionary War, and we'll talk. Until then, see this other thread I started:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ists-on-the-41
Us airdales were smart enough to not get stuck on a boat... or at least I was LOL
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my 56 Tarmac has a 175 HT and 56.5 TT - so I'm a bit between the 56 & 58 on H2 for these 2 DIMS - I would prolly go with the 56 - H2 since getting a little longer stem is not an issue, and the Tarmac at 175 is about as high as I'd get anyway, 170 HT is about right.
160 or below - H1 - is a bit too deep these days - tried that with a Felt 1R - 160 HT - and just couldn't make the position work...
I use a more std/traditional drop and reach bar. I don;t like compact bars, there's just so little (none) variation between the hoods and drops positions.
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Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
I had a Madone 5.2 and now a 7.9. Both awesome bikes. You can't go wrong if you like the fit. But if you like the Tarmac so much I'd stick with it.
What he said. Why fix what isn't broken?
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Originally Posted by fauxto nick View Post
There is no H3 fit offered on Madones anymore, it exclusive to the Domane now. I could be wrong about it not being offered on the lower level Madones but I know for a fact that on 6 & 7 series and Project 1 there is no H3. I talked to our rep and he confirmed.
WSD Madones are H3 in at least the 3, 4 and 5 series, I think? You're right about the 6 and 7, though. My mistake, but the H1 is 6 and 7 only now.
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WSD Madones are H3 in at least the 3, 4 and 5 series, I think? You're right about the 6 and 7, though. My mistake, but the H1 is 6 and 7 only now.
You are correct. I was bummed they took the H3 option out of the 6 & 7 line up. There's guys like me who want the more aggressive geometry of the Madone and don't want the ISO Speed or longer wheel base of the Domane but need a taller head tube because of their fit needs.
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