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Friend dialed it to 400 watts and broke Trek rear triangle

Old 08-12-13, 02:28 PM
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Friend dialed it to 400 watts and broke Trek rear triangle


This photo was taken Saturday, when a few of us were climbing up Mt. Soledad.
He said he felt like he had a flat tire. lol
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He called his wife for a ride home.
This photo taken from the top.
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Trek bikes break. I have seen this.
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Which side were you guys going up?
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This is why I never dial it up to 400 watts. Safety über alles.




It does get hard, holding back, sometimes.
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Weird; I wouldn't have expected it to break right in the middle of the stay like that.
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duct tape and some starbucks stirrers ill fix that...

he made the call of shame ????
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Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20
Which side were you guys going up?
The Via Capri side. But not on Via Capri. There is a paved fire trail above the road.
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Trek's are good for the self estheem. Making 250 watts seem like 400 watts and all.
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is Via Capri the northside street with the concrete roadway sections?
askin cause I was duly impressed by the steepness of that street when I was fumblin around down there some yrs back...
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Yes, Via Capri is the north side street with occasional 17% stretches. Last time I went there, I felt like _I_ was going to break.

Let me guess, heavy guy pedaling out of the saddle?
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Originally Posted by hamster
Yes, Via Capri is the north side street with occasional 17% stretches. Last time I went there, I felt like _I_ was going to break.

Let me guess, heavy guy pedaling out of the saddle?
Yes. He was a portly gentlemen. His wife might call him 'pleasingly plump'.
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I was looking at the SRAM installation pdf. If you run a dork disk with a SRAM red rear derailleur it can cause what they call 'bizzaro forces' to occur.
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I have a love/hate relationship with Via Capri...

Where does the fire road start?
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Originally Posted by cyclezen
he made the call of shame ????
Yup. Luckily I've never made the call of shame. And I even recently saved two friends from making that call of shame to their wives. (Although it may not technically be a 'call of shame' if you call a friend, instead of a spouse).

One guy I picked up and drove to the ER. He was pretty messed up.

The other guy, we stuffed his bike in the back of my car and gave him a ride home. (photo below).
His Parlee was totaled, but insurance paid for everything.
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Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20
I have a love/hate relationship with Via Capri...

Where does the fire road start?
Hillside Drive dead ends into it.
Crespo to Al Bahr to Kearsarge to Soledad Ave to Hillside Drive.
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Looks like there may be a small fracture above the dropout. If that's the case, the rest of the seatstay wouldn't be able to support the loads especially out of the saddle with lateral loading and the big failure resulted because of that
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You are ging to need waterrockets' assistance in filing a claim with Trek :innocent
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Originally Posted by save10
I was looking at the SRAM installation pdf. If you run a dork disk with a SRAM red rear derailleur it can cause what they call 'unhappy hot-or-not denizens' to occur.
They make me type stuff here.
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
You are ging to need waterrockets' assistance in filing a claim with Trek :innocent
I did verify that he is the 'original' owner, just to eliminate that one issue.
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Originally Posted by justkeepedaling
Looks like there may be a small fracture above the dropout. If that's the case, the rest of the seatstay wouldn't be able to support the loads especially out of the saddle with lateral loading and the big failure resulted because of that
Good call. I just zoomed in on that original photo and it looks like you are correct.
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I never rip on Trek carbon frames, but I have cracked a BB casing bond on one.

It's an imperfect world that we live in.
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Let's put that picture next to the definition of "asplode" in the 41 glossary.
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That reminds me of my bike's carbon fiber seat post: crunch!
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Really, this thread was started to show off a nice Holland.

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UPDATE TO THE ORIGINAL POST
Trek denied my friend's warranty claim. They said something along the lines (I'm getting it second hand) that the bike must have been previously crashed because it couldn't have happened simply by climbing out of the saddle.
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