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Discerning a Cervelo SuperProdigy from a Prodigy

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Old 03-03-05, 05:21 PM
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Discerning a Cervelo SuperProdigy from a Prodigy

Let me poll the endless knowledge of bikeForums, because someone out there must have an answer to this: I just purchased a 2002 Cervelo Prodigy. I'm very excited, as this is something of a dream bike for me, and the sweet ride is only sweetened by the sweet deal I got on it. I know that in 2002 a number of Prodigies were built with the lighter Renaissance tubeset spec and painted like any other Prodigy, thus the mysterious 2002 Cervelo "SuperProdigy." I love the bike either way, and it was a great deal either way, but as the criminal dude says in Dirty Harry, "I got's to know!"

So my question: is there a way to discern without stripping it down to the frame and weighing it? I don't really have access to a percision scale, though if it's the only way I'll find one. If I do have to weigh it, what numbers am I looking for? Does anyone know how many SuperProdigies are out there painted as Prodigies anyhow? I've heard so many stories about it that it seems like a substantial percentage of the production run, but I've never actually seen one or met anyone who owns one, so it's something of a chimera.

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Aussie531 might know.

I'm still looking on Ebay for a SuperProdigy.
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Aussie531 might know.

I'm still looking on Ebay for a SuperProdigy.

Yeah...but his cracked!
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Originally Posted by jonTu
Let me poll the endless knowledge of bikeForums, because someone out there must have an answer to this: I just purchased a 2002 Cervelo Prodigy. I'm very excited, as this is something of a dream bike for me, and the sweet ride is only sweetened by the sweet deal I got on it. I know that in 2002 a number of Prodigies were built with the lighter Renaissance tubeset spec and painted like any other Prodigy, thus the mysterious 2002 Cervelo "SuperProdigy." I love the bike either way, and it was a great deal either way, but as the criminal dude says in Dirty Harry, "I got's to know!"

So my question: is there a way to discern without stripping it down to the frame and weighing it? I don't really have access to a percision scale, though if it's the only way I'll find one. If I do have to weigh it, what numbers am I looking for? Does anyone know how many SuperProdigies are out there painted as Prodigies anyhow? I've heard so many stories about it that it seems like a substantial percentage of the production run, but I've never actually seen one or met anyone who owns one, so it's something of a chimera.

Thanks in advance for the tips.
The supers that I have seen had areas of unpainted nickel or chrome plating.
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A few years ago they 2 steel frames: the Prodigy and the Renaissance. The renaissance was supposed to be lighter, and was MUCH more expensive.

The Superprodigy is meant to be a cheap version (they're made in Taiwan) of the Renaissance.

I don't think there would be much difference in weight or performance because my 58cm Superprodigy is no featherweight, at 1687g (3.7 lbs) -- frame only

This is the old Renaissance. This web site is wrong; it's not a 2004 model.
http://www.cbdcycles.com.au/shop/Sho...sanceFrameFork


This info was on the Cervelo web site last year:

"Some time ago during the production of the Prodigy, Columbus supplied us with incorrect tubesets. Instead of a Prodigy tubeset, most of the tubes were dimensioned according to our Renaissance tubeset spec. At the time we didn't make too much of a fuss about it, and we painted them as normal Prodigies. But word got out that there were a few "SuperProdigies" out there, and those customers who through weighing their frames figured out they were one of the lucky ones gave us great feedback on their frames. So for 2003, we will come clean and tell it like it is. So we now offer the SuperProdigy as the new standard for our steel road frame. It still has the great combination of stiffness and handling, not to mention the feel of steel. But while the Prodigy was already the lightest steel frame in its class, the SuperProdigy is simply in a class of its own. Coupled with our new superlight Columbus Muscle full-carbon fork, this new frameset can rival most Aluminum framesets in lightness.

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As of 2/15/05, www.bikyle.com still had at least one complete super prodigy in 54cm.
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Keep looking, I had pretty much given up hope of finding one at a price I could afford, but then I picked up a red frameset in mint condition on eBay a few months ago for $450, minus the seatpost and headset. The seller included a Chris King headset for $50 bucks more. Basically 1/2 off. I cannot wait to build it up.
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