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Hed Belgium's -vs- tubeless

Old 09-07-13, 05:45 PM
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Hed Belgium's -vs- tubeless

I just totally love my Belgium clinchers. I guess that's redundant as the Belgium model is only clincher. The added width is majic for me as I am a clyde. I do how ever ride on one of my bikes with Kysirum Elites but I pretty much hate them. I plan on replaceing them soon. I ride them on my Tarmac and consider that my climbing/short ride bike and was wanting a light weight wheelset to replace the Kysirum's.

Being a clyde I keep sayin I don't need to care about weight. One of the things I really like about my Belgiums is the handling on descents in my mountains that I ride all the time. The difference is huge. So here is my primary question for those who have some sort of comparisons.

What is/how much difference could I expect to gain buy going tubless over what I already have in my Belgium's ?
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Can Belgiums not be setup for tubeless? They're being sold as such here.

I've gone tubeless on one of my bikes and love it so far. Haven't had to fix any flats yet [knock on wood..], so the final verdict isn't quite in just yet. Mine are built with A23 rims.
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Originally Posted by squatchy
I just totally love my Belgium clinchers. I guess that's redundant as the Belgium model is only clincher.
https://www.wheelbuilder.com/hed-belg...bular-rim.html

HED Belgium tubular says what?
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I thought they started calling them Ardenne's. When I bought mine they were only clincher. At least that's what I thought.
My point is the ride quality difference in any case
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Originally Posted by squatchy
I thought they started calling them Ardenne's. When I bought mine they were only clincher. At least that's what I thought.
My point is the ride quality difference in any case
Ardennes is what HED calls them when they sell you a full wheelset; the bare rim is Belgium. Also, Ardennes was always one of the price/weight points for a complete wheel. Originally it was only one; now they're all Ardennes with some letters after.

Yes, I'm a geek, and I realize this is way off-topic.
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well you'll save somewhere from 200 g to 140 ish g, depending on the tubes used. But more importantly the weight loss is at the exterior of thr rotating weight, which means easier spinups under any accels. Also, given a good tubeless tire, the ride should feel livelier and better able to conform to the small road irregularities, which contributes to lower roll resistence.
I haven't gone tubeless on road yet, but based on my experiences with mtb tubeless, road tubeless should be awesome nice. Problem is I have about another 2.5 yr supply of not cheap tires which aren't road tubeless. Maybe by the time I use them up, tubeless tire assortment will be greater and rpices might come down a bit. Ultremo ZX are $130 ea (cheapest) and I don;t do hutch...
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If Conti made a tubeless GP4KS I think the road tubeless market would actually take off.
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