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digibud 09-18-13 10:30 PM

change Romin to Romin
 
My Romin 143 Comp Gel got a crack in it. Interestingly I only learned about it because I wrongly thought the squeaking was coming from it. But it was cracked. I called Specialized and they were happy to send a replacement. They even said "sure" to my request to change over to a White 155 Evo.
What an incredible difference. I have one other 155 saddle that I like, but not really any better than some of my 143 saddles. But this 155 Romin Evo is an incredible fit.
The point I want to make is that if you are not entirely satisfied with your saddle, consider trying another size. In my case the change in size made a huge difference in comfort.

bianchi10 09-18-13 11:02 PM

I just went from a 143 evo to a 155 and have loved it so far.

rangerdavid 09-19-13 05:21 AM

I use the Romin 155 also. best saddle i've found so far (for me)

Smokehouse 09-19-13 07:09 AM

How big (or small) are you fellas? My bike came with a 143 Romin and I've been giving serious thought to swapping to a Romin EVO. I've read many times where Romin users have gone from a 143 to a 155 and loved it. I know everyone is different but I'm a med/large fella at 6' 170lbs....

I guess I could go get measured but figuring I won't be buying a saddle at a LBS, I'd feel bad wasting their time.

mshred 09-19-13 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Smokehouse (Post 16082112)
How big (or small) are you fellas? My bike came with a 143 Romin and I've been giving serious thought to swapping to a Romin EVO. I've read many times where Romin users have gone from a 143 to a 155 and loved it. I know everyone is different but I'm a med/large fella at 6' 170lbs....

I guess I could go get measured but figuring I won't be buying a saddle at a LBS, I'd feel bad wasting their time.

pretty easy to measure your sit bones at home. i put a folded up towel on a wooden chair (coffee table might work too) and put foil over it. sat down on the foil and my sit bones leave a nice indentation. measure the distance in mm between the indentations and you've got your sit bone measurement. i did it 3 times and took an average just to be sure i didnt screw it up the first time.

Smokehouse 09-19-13 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by mshred (Post 16082240)
pretty easy to measure your sit bones at home. i put a folded up towel on a wooden chair (coffee table might work too) and put foil over it. sat down on the foil and my sit bones leave a nice indentation. measure the distance in mm between the indentations and you've got your sit bone measurement. i did it 3 times and took an average just to be sure i didnt screw it up the first time.

Good idea, I will try that tonight. I'm sure my wife will poke fun at me though for sitting naked on a towel covered in foil though LOL!

lsberrios1 09-19-13 08:12 AM

I have a romin evo gel comp in 155. Really like it but it is white and now my bike is themed black. It is also heavy at 235gr I believe... Now I have a toupe expert in 155mm and while not as comfortable it looks better and weights a whoping 50 grams less!!! :D. I think I want either a romin pro or S works but I feel like I am missing on other options like Fizik and selle italia. I just dont know how they measure sit bones and such.

Anybody have an idea? Sorry if I am derrailing the thread some.

mshred 09-19-13 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Smokehouse (Post 16082290)
Good idea, I will try that tonight. I'm sure my wife will poke fun at me though for sitting naked on a towel covered in foil though LOL!

maybe if you're lucky she'll let you poke fun at her. (wink wink)

one thing i forgot to add...measure the indentations from the center of each, not the edges.

bianchi10 09-19-13 08:14 AM

I have had both fizik and selle italia and didn't like either, especially compared to the romin evo.

Hiro11 09-19-13 08:42 AM

My 155 Romin Evo is easily best saddle I've ever had. 4 hour rides are no problem at all. The only problem is that it's creaky, need to oil the rails or something.

xjustice09x 09-19-13 08:59 AM

I love my Romin 155. For some reason that saddle fits alot of people very well. My fitter gets alot of people to switch to that seat after they demo one. In his experience more people fit the regular Romin better than the EVO.

dalava 09-19-13 09:56 AM

I believe, for the same sit bone width, you may need different size Specialized saddles. For example, I am 143 for Toupe, but 155 for Romin and Romin EVO. I made the mistake of assuming I need the same width when I moved from Toupe to Romin and then to Romin EVO; after I switched to the 155mm, I found the difference is huge. I can now sit properly in and "push off" the saddle a lot better. YMMV.

rpenmanparker 09-19-13 09:58 AM

Poster after poster continually say this or that brand and model saddle is the "bomb". Everybody should be riding it. But it isn't about brand and model (at least not completely). It is to a very high degree about width. Like OP and others are just finding out. As I have said before, there used to be an adjustable width saddle that could be used permanently or just to learn what width was required. Kind of like an adjustable stem. (Not the Easy Seat brand with no nose in front) If bike shops would keep some of those as "testers", they wouldn't have to take back and exchange so many barely used saddles. They could give out the variable width tester on loan for a deposit. Let the customer find his preferred width and then take back the tester and apply the deposit to the required width saddle of customer's choice. I guarantee the brand and model would be much less important if the width were always determined this way first.

TrojanHorse 09-19-13 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by dalava (Post 16082726)
I believe, for the same sit bone width, you may need different size Specialized saddles. For example, I am 143 for Toupe, but 155 for Romin and Romin EVO. I made the mistake of assuming I need the same width when I moved from Toupe to Romin and then to Romin EVO; after I switched to the 155mm, I found the difference is huge. I can now sit properly in and "push off" the saddle a lot better. YMMV.

+1 - make sure you demo different saddles!

For those of you measuring at home, keep in mind that your sit bone width <> saddle width. if I recall correctly, the specialized guy measured my sit bones at 135mm, which put me between the 143 and 155 widths for saddles. Maybe specialized has a table on line somewhere, I'm not sure.

I tried a 143 Toupe and hated it... immediately. I tried a 155 romin evo and still love it. There are not many saddles out there for racing bikes that are wider than 143, though.

Is the regular romin a different shape? The Evo has *slightly* more padding but I'm not aware of any other differences.

rangerdavid 09-19-13 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by mshred (Post 16082240)
pretty easy to measure your sit bones at home. i put a folded up towel on a wooden chair (coffee table might work too) and put foil over it. sat down on the foil and my sit bones leave a nice indentation. measure the distance in mm between the indentations and you've got your sit bone measurement. i did it 3 times and took an average just to be sure i didnt screw it up the first time.

this, and similar ways would probably work, and would be much cheaper than just buying saddles until you find one that fits. Its actually kinda similar to what is done in on of the well known fit sessons, BG I think.

Slackerprince 09-19-13 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 16082422)
My 155 Romin Evo is easily best saddle I've ever had. 4 hour rides are no problem at all. The only problem is that it's creaky, need to oil the rails or something.

I just went through this. It was not the saddle, it was the seatpost. Remove all moving parts and screws of seatpost and grease them. Creak gone.
Good luck.

S

lsberrios1 09-19-13 10:52 AM

different saddles are shaped different for different purposes as well, I believe. I like my toupe but with flatter surface it might be putting more stress on my sitbones. I do think it provides more stability for extended periods of big power outputs. I think the Romin is more short sprints based, when there is a lot of body movement not necessarily on the saddle but out of it... Or I might just be talking out of my derriere.

capita 09-19-13 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16082759)
+1 - make sure you demo different saddles!

For those of you measuring at home, keep in mind that your sit bone width <> saddle width. if I recall correctly, the specialized guy measured my sit bones at 135mm, which put me between the 143 and 155 widths for saddles. Maybe specialized has a table on line somewhere, I'm not sure.

I tried a 143 Toupe and hated it... immediately. I tried a 155 romin evo and still love it. There are not many saddles out there for racing bikes that are wider than 143, though.

Is the regular romin a different shape? The Evo has *slightly* more padding but I'm not aware of any other differences.



Evo nose drops down more and is a bit thinner in profile than the regular. Regular romin for me. Love it.

mprelaw 09-19-13 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Smokehouse (Post 16082112)
How big (or small) are you fellas? My bike came with a 143 Romin and I've been giving serious thought to swapping to a Romin EVO. I've read many times where Romin users have gone from a 143 to a 155 and loved it. I know everyone is different but I'm a med/large fella at 6' 170lbs....

I guess I could go get measured but figuring I won't be buying a saddle at a LBS, I'd feel bad wasting their time.

Aren't Romins the same price regardless if you buy it directly from Spesh, or from a Spesh dealer? Shipping vs. sales tax is usually close to a wash. I just picked up a leftover Romin from last year's line for half price at a shop near me. Wouldn't hurt to pay a visit.

Ricanfred 09-19-13 12:34 PM

I recently switched from an Arione VS to a Romin Evo Gel in 155. I tried a Toupe in 143 and found it painful even though it has a flatter profile similar to the Arione. Still getting used to the Romin, but looks like it's going to work. Noticed my behind likes it level (tail to nose) to slightly elevated nose. For some reason I'm also very sensitive to fore/aft, level, and height adjustments with this saddle. Only thing I don't like is that I could "move around" a lot easier on the Arione than on the Romin, but I guess I'm getting used to that.

jdon 09-19-13 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by mshred (Post 16082240)
pretty easy to measure your sit bones at home. i put a folded up towel on a wooden chair (coffee table might work too) and put foil over it. sat down on the foil and my sit bones leave a nice indentation. measure the distance in mm between the indentations and you've got your sit bone measurement. i did it 3 times and took an average just to be sure i didnt screw it up the first time.

Realizing of course that distance between sit bones doesn't always correlate to saddle size. The shape of the saddle has a lot to do with it as well. If one fits a 143 Toupe, a 143 Romin will be too narrow. The 155 will more likely fit better. The size Specialized quotes is edge to edge at the widest point, not the support points.


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