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Old 09-25-13, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by therhodeo
Why did you pick this forum to ask in? The commuting forum or DUI forum would likely have better advice on this kind of bike. I'm far from a bike snob (I've spent the majority of my cycling time on an aluminum cross bike with tiagra/105) but I wouldn't spend the money to put decent bar tape on a Denali because its highly likely good tape would last longer than the bike. For a fun transport bike I would be searching craigslist for something nicer or a fixey. Maybe even a bikes direct fixey.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
You can't ride a bike without tires. These are consumable costs no matter what, so your point is not clear.
I think it's relevant in a TCO sense. 3 sets of cheap tires without tubes or any other form of maintenance and you've covered the cost of the bike.

Chains, cables, bearings, tape, etc are all consumables. If it affects your ability to use/enjoy the bike, it's pennywise and pound foolish to not take these costs into account.
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Originally Posted by banerjek
I think it's relevant in a TCO sense. 3 sets of cheap tires without tubes or any other form of maintenance and you've covered the cost of the bike.

Chains, cables, bearings, tape, etc are all consumables. If it affects your ability to use/enjoy the bike, it's pennywise and pound foolish to not take these costs into account.
That's the point: you have those expenses regardless. It doesn't make sense to me to say that the bike isn't worth putting new tires on.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
That's the point: you have those expenses regardless. It doesn't make sense to me to say that the bike isn't worth putting new tires on.
...and yet the situation can and does exist.
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Originally Posted by DaveWC
Amazing, you can't provide advice on $10 upgrades to a sub $100 bike. At least you tried, sort of.
You're the only person who mentioned a $10 limit.

Have you ever seen a college campus? Bikes get stolen there. The last time I rode by the UW, I saw a bike frameset and one wheel locked to a post with some lousy, worn out components. Everything worth taking had already been taken. This is the sort of environment the OP plans to ride his bike in. Commuting around campus means locking it up during class. A very inexpensive bike with a mediocre reputation is ideal for that. And not everybody who rides a bike goes all out with it, the 41 attracts OCD people who enjoy spending money on bike bling, but cycling attracts a broader audience than that.
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Originally Posted by DaveWC
Mind you, the best negative opinion I found on this bike was this one...



Awesome. The bike found its target market.
Ha ha ha ha.

Why doesn't it only have one at a time?
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Originally Posted by MikeyBoyAz
...and yet the situation can and does exist.
(that it doesn't make sense to me to say that the bike isn't worth putting new tires on.)

LOL you're just trying to rile me up. Any bike that you'd ride is worth putting tires on, wouldn't you agree? Even if you paid $1 for it?
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OP, A few years ago, I bought an aluminum "Schwinn Varsity" off Craigslist. Pretty much the same bike, only older. It was a little rusty, but I was determined to ride it, so I did what has been suggested to you. I adjusted and oiled everything. Shifting was terrible, I put the chain on the big front ring on only used about 2 - 3 gears in the back. But, it did work. So I borrowed some mountain bike pedals and shoes, replaced the tires with Continental GP4000S' and added clipon tri-bars. I rode it nearly 1500 miles. With basically no brakes :0

Moral of the story, grease it and ride it. If it continues to work, put as little money in as possible, and make sure you can take the upgrades with you
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
That's the point: you have those expenses regardless. It doesn't make sense to me to say that the bike isn't worth putting new tires on.
When the bike is that cheap, it's not totally insane to argue that the entire bike is disposable and that you don't need to think about tires, chains, and other consumables. When they wear out, you can just ditch the bike and get another one.

For situations like the OP's where the bike needs to live in the elements near thieves, a beat up SS is not a bad way to go. Or even a new one -- WM sells one for $90. With dept store bikes, the fewer parts you have, the less opportunity for things to go wrong.
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Seriously man...Take the money you would spend on upgrades and find you a nice used bike that has halfway decent components on it ... they are all over Craigslist...you will not regret it... You are probably looking at dumping $200-300 on upgrades.. for that you can find a nice used bike... I know you say you don't want to do that but trust everybody here when they say >YOU DO.

If you want a beater... use that GMC, scuff it up good and it will not appeeal to anybody and won't get stolen...grease it and ride the crap out of it.

Most importantly, have fun.

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OP should just take a GMC Denali and ride over the GMC Denali.

Then buy a 1991 Tunturi with friction shifters for $90 on Craigslist, which would be a paramount upgrade.
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Originally Posted by DaveWC

" This bike is advertised as having 21 gears. That is also a joke. You only get 7 gears at a time."

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Awesome. The bike found its target market.
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Hi,

I think the OP has taken on board he shouldn't try to upgrade it.
Far too many new parts to change out the budget MTB drivetrain.

AFAICT he's sensible and taking maintenance seriously.

Fair enough, for a new bike for the money, there is a lot worse.
Used at a good price what could you possibly complain about ?

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Does your campus have a bike barn or co-op?
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Originally Posted by therhodeo
Why did you pick this forum to ask in? The commuting forum or DUI forum would likely have better advice on this kind of bike. I'm far from a bike snob (I've spent the majority of my cycling time on an aluminum cross bike with tiagra/105) but I wouldn't spend the money to put decent bar tape on a Denali because its highly likely good tape would last longer than the bike. For a fun transport bike I would be searching craigslist for something nicer or a fixey. Maybe even a bikes direct fixey.
The DUI forum?
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Originally Posted by wheelreason
Super Record, and carbon bars...
Might as well throw on a pair of Zipps, too.
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Originally Posted by mprelaw
Might as well throw on a pair of Zipps, too.
Don't forget the Tubasti
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Here's the order of things you should be buying for your walmart bike:

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
The DUI forum?
A joke.
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A different mechanical skill is needed for these bikes. It's not simply replacing the old parts with new. First thing I would do is see if the frame is straight, with the string test. Bend the frame as necessary. Then I would check the rear deraileur to see if it is aligned properly. Again, bend as necessary to get it straight. True up the wheels and make sure they are dished properly and sitting in the middle of the fork/stays. Make sure there is good tension in the spokes. Squirst some WD-40 on everything, except the saddle, on the bike. The Denali is a much better bike than the Huffys, Free Spirits, and Columbia 10 speeds of the past. They can be made to run well. Just needs lots of tweaking to dial them in.
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Originally Posted by big chainring
Bend the frame as necessary.
Denali has an aluminum frame. Wut?

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... check the rear deraileur to see if it is aligned properly. Again, bend as necessary to get it straight...
Um...generally a good approach.

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..True up the wheels and make sure they are dished properly and sitting in the middle of the fork/stays. Make sure there is good tension in the spokes...
Subject bike has suffered 3-4 years of neglect, including surface rust. Will the spoke nipples move? Let's find out...

Originally Posted by big chainring
Squirst some WD-40 on everything, except the saddle, on the bike...
It's a good idea to avoid the rims, too.

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The Denali is a much better bike than the Huffys, Free Spirits, and Columbia 10 speeds of the past.
Not really. I've even flipped some [free to me] Free Spirits, and although heavy, the finish was durable and they came out pretty nicely. Solid and comfortable rides - perfect for a campus. I'd bet that a reconditioned Free Spirit would last longer under heavy use than a Denali.

Finally, I've scrounged and built up PLENTY of sub $100 road bikes. There are always roadside/trash Schwinns and steel hybrids, Trek 720s and the like. For the cost of rubber, pads, tape and cables (and don't use Bell sets, for goodness sakes), you have a solid bike.

I built up a 1980 Schwinn World Sport womans frame for my daughter's campus bike. Trashpicked bike. Somethings from my parts bin, admittedly (original Schwinn grips). Total investment was <$50. Terrific bike that rides like a dream (for her purposes). Just saying...

Campus bikes are meant to be stolen, neglected, and ultimately...abandoned.
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Originally Posted by Spencer213
Okay guys I am brand new to cycling and brand new to this thread. That being said I bought a used 3-4 year old GMC Denali road bike. It's in pretty good condition but you can tell it was neglected and didn't have regular maintenance. I adjusted the brakes and attempted to adjust the derailleurs but they seemed a little worn out and I could see the springs looked rusty. I know EVERYONE advises not to upgrade this bike and to save your money but I don't want to! I'm looking for advice for upgrades to the derailleurs, shifter, and maybe handlebars with a low budget in mind. Thanks guys any help appreciated!
Ceramic bearings

Aero carbon rims

Power meter

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