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First Road Bike, in need of suggestions

Old 10-02-13, 08:21 PM
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First Road Bike, in need of suggestions

Hi*
I'm in the market for my first road bike.
after riding for 2 years in every single weather ( rain, snow, boilling hot and freezing days )*
I can safely say that i love cycling.*

the use I would have for the new bike :

1 - is it ok to ride your main expensive road bike in the rain .. is it common practice ?*
If some cleening or maintenance is required, I'm a pretty handy guy, and I can most likely learn how to do it.
I do not plan in riding my new bike in the snow or the salt any time soon but I would like to be able to use it in the rain.
so .. place for fenders would be appreciated. ( even if they can only be attach to the saddle )

2 - my budget is 800-1200$ and I do not mind buying used!*
*- I have NOO preference for hight end aluminum or low end carbon, I really dont care*
I also dont care if the bike is flashy or not, i'm really looking for a ( bang for your buck ).... and i'm not a ubgrade kinda guy.*
(aside from sadle and tires)*
- I'm no weight freak, and I cant care less if my bike is a bit heavyer.
- I'm dont participate in races nor do i do 1000km a day, but i do enjoy riding to work/friends

3 - I'm not really looking for a touring bike ... but I would still like if my bike could ... hold 1 small bag on the front or the back of the bike. (carry a few books to work)
.... I really dont plan on carrying heavy stuff, or crossing canada, I'm a light person myself ( 170 lbs).*
but I plan of using that bike in 5+ years

4 - I live in canada / quebec montreal, so the bike needs to be ** find-able here ***
( Trek, Opus, Cannondale, specialized, felt, MEC, ... )*
ps: just a heads up, roads here, are NOT that nice here (thx winter)

5 - I am a cautious buyer, and I like to read reviews and comments on something before I buy it,*
1200$ is a lot of money ( I'm still a student ) and I really want to make sure I got something decent.

6- I looked at my LBS and, people are nice but the bike price is really not on par whit what I could buy online / used.
we are talking about a 20%-30% increase O.o

7- I was looking for advice on bike models that would fit the bill the best the from reading the forum the
( caad 8 - 9 - 10 ) seems to be praised, the ( trek 2.1 ) , (Felt z95)* also*
what other bike should I Look into

ps: thx to anyone actualy taking quite a bit of their own time to suggest or compare bikes, you dont know how its appreciated, this is big investment on my part and i'm looking at this tread almost every day

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Old 10-02-13, 09:06 PM
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Check REI. Killer deals there right now. The trenta which just recently sold out had the specs of a 2k+ bike and it was going for $900. REI is also a great place for their customer service. Happy hunting
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Old 10-03-13, 02:09 AM
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Have you looked at the Specialized Tricross it seems perfect for you for hardiness and to tour and take winters too
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Old 11-20-13, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Winnershcyclist View Post
Have you looked at the Specialized Tricross it seems perfect for you for hardiness and to tour and take winters too
thx for your suggestion, i looked at the
Specialized from Tricross, it seems pretty nice !, I did notice that the fork is in alluminium tho, and I heard great thing about carbon forks,
but I will look into it

other then that,

I did find a buyer's guide
https://www.bikeradar.com/gear/articl...er-1000-32772/
but i'm always cautious fallowing those because its normaly writen by 1 person.

I was kinda wondering what would be the ( top 5 options in my price range ) should I consider + try

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Old 11-20-13, 12:19 PM
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Finally, someone asks good, specific questions! Kudos!
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I can safely say that i love biking.*
"Cycling", please. "Biking" = Harleys.

1 -
is it ok to ride your main expensive road bike in the rain .. is it common practice ?*
If some cleening or maintenance is required, I'm a pretty handy guy, and I can most likely learn how to do it.
I do not plan in riding my new bike in the snow or the salt any time soon but I would like to be able to use it in the rain.
so .. place for fenders would be appreciated. ( even if they can only be attach to the saddle )
Certainly OK. The most important thing here is good drainage out of the bottom bracket. Look for a hole on the bottom of the frame under the crank. otherwise, you'll have to pull the seatpost and turn the bike over to drain it after a wet ride. The drivetrain and brakepads are the other two things to worry about. Use wet lube on the drivetrain. Spray it down with WD-40 (which is made to displace water) and relube after a particularly wet ride. Ensure you clean the grit out of brakepads after a wet day as well as it can wear your rims down. Fenders are awesome if you plan on riding in the wet frequently. If you're interested in fenders, ensure you buy a bike with clearance both in the brake calipers and frame.

2 -
my budget is 800-1200$ and I do not mind buying used!*
*- I have NOO preference for hight end aluminum or low end carbon, I really dont care*
I also dont care if the bike is flashy or not, i'm really looking for a ( bang for your buck ).... and i'm not a ubgrade kinda guy.*
(aside from sadle and tires)*
- I'm no weight freak, and I cant care less if my bike is a bit heavyer.
- I'm dont participate in races nor do i do 1000km a day, but i do enjoy riding to work/friends
Very wise choices here on your part. Weight is basically irrelevant below ~22 pounds, don't believe the hype. Also, don't get sucked into a very aggressive position, look for something more upright and comfortable. Pick a bike that can fit at least 28MM tires, fatter tires are better in almost every situation. Also consider a steel frame. Rusts isn't as big an issue as people think it is and nothing beats a steel frame for toughness. (I sound like Rivbike here).

3 -
I'm not really looking for a touring bike ... but I would still like if my bike could ... hold 1 small bag on the front or the back of the bike. (carry a few books to work)
.... I really dont plan on carrying heavy stuff, or crossing canada, I'm a light person myself ( 170 lbs).*
but I plan of using that bike in 5+ years
Even if you're not looking at touring, ensure you get a bike with real front and rear braze-ons if you're even considering putting a rack and fenders on it.

4 -
I live in canada / quebec montreal, so the bike needs to be ** find-able here ***
( Trek, Opus, Cannondale, specialized, felt, MEC, ... )*
ps: just a heads up, roads here, are NOT that nice here (thx winter)
Don't get hung up on brand, they're all made by the same three OEMs anyway. Just pick something that fits, has the features you want and looks nice.

5 -
I am a cautious buyer, and I like to read reviews and comments on something before I buy it,*
1200$ is a lot of money ( I'm still a student ) and I really want to make sure I got something decent.
Don't drive yourself too crazy. Bikes are simple, a lot simpler than some reviewers like to pretend.

6-
I looked at my LBS and, people are nice but the bike price is really not on par whit what I could buy online / used.
we are talking about a 20%-30% increase O.o
Buying online is a bit risky if it's your first bike. You really want to get a good fit and a good relationship with someone to fix your bike. LBS might be worth the premium in the long run.

7-
I was looking for advice on bike models that would fit the bill the best the from reading the forum the
( caad 8 - 9 - 10 ) seems to be praised, the ( trek 2.1 ) , (Felt z95)* also*
what other bike should I Look into
These are all racey and don't look like they fit your criteria, especially the CAAD. Consider something more brevet/randonneur style if you're not racing. More upright, more clearance for tires / fenders, rack mounts etc.
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Old 11-20-13, 01:52 PM
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OP, also check out Marinoni and Devinci. They're both from your neck of the woods, Montreal and Saguenay, respectively.
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Old 11-20-13, 02:50 PM
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I don't know what shipping to Canada would be but I will post a few options for you that are in your budget.

Orbea Aqua with Apex $839

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/or...NjQ2F0MTAwNTY1

Nashbar Carbon bike with 105 $999

https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...67_-1___202613

Fuji Roubaix with 105 $1099

https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400315__400315

Litespeed M1 Carbon with 105 for $1225 shipped (yes they ship to Canada)

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_1688wt_896
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What I would like to do is:
1- narrow down my search to 3-5 models and try them in LBS
2 - choose wich one I like the best
3 - compare a few stores including some in the US and... and do the math of
( free maintenance for a year vs USA pricing )


- Hiro11
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[B]Don't get hung up on brand, they're all made by the same three OEMs anyway. Just pick something that fits, has the features you want and looks nice.
dont worry thats the only advantage i have, to be really new to the cycling world

thanks Hiro, you can't imagine how greatfull I am for your in detail response
I would have a few more things to ask
- I agree whit you, shopping arroud for a race bicycle does sound more exiting, but I agree I think I would be alot happyer in the long run whit a bike that is a little more relax
- 1 thing, I am 24 years of age ( not that it maters ) but, from my experience of riding ( really low), I do enjoy more ... responsive rides, I enjoyed immensely riding a fixed gear for a while because of the ... responsiveness it gave me. I prefer something a little more on the stiff side then on the comfy side, but I'm whit you 100% that I probably would enjoy a posture that is a little more relaxed. if that makes any sense.
so given this into account + my wall of text, what bike models would you suggest me to look into first ? so I get something to started. time is really my ally here.
and those were the reason... not sure why I was looking a little more on aluminum then carbon or steel, being a little stiffer and more water resistant was i thought the smartest choice


- seymour1910
Thanks I will look into that
- mpath
those are great looking bike, I kinda got told to try to avoid low en carbon, not sure if its a made up thing or not

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Old 11-20-13, 08:33 PM
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I think for your budget this is probably the biggest bang for the buck -
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...f-comp-xiv.htm

Shimano 105 is a workhorse drivetrain and on a carbon frame will be nice. I rode a BD bike for 5 1/2 years (19000 miles) and it was great. I even transplanted the drive train onto another frame (now my back up bike).
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Old 11-20-13, 08:50 PM
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Surly Crosscheck.
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Old 11-21-13, 12:30 AM
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For rough roads, you may want a bike with 47/57mm reach brakes so you have a chance of possibly putting 32mm tires. The Norco Valence has 47/57mm reach brakes. But the Kona H-o-n-k-y Tonk can use 32mm tires as well. And the Trek CrossRip has clearance for 35mm tires which you may need if you wanted to install studded tires for winter. I'm sure the Norco and the Trek have backrack eyelets but I'm not sure about the Kona.

I know the Norco has somewhat relaxed geometry but I did not check on the Trek nor the Kona.

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Old 11-25-13, 02:43 AM
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I think for me the choice is narrower than 5 you have to take comfort suitability for you as after all we all have different expectations and most importantly price as it doesn't matter what I it is if you can't afford them a non starter.
I like the Tricross from having tried it as I haven't ridden any others can't add to your wish list but the genre is in your ball park
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WOW,
First I would like to say thank you all.
i'm really new to the cycling world ( other then my old steal ride) and i'm reading alot on bikes lately
I have looked at every suggestion posted here and read on every bike. and thanks to all for the suggestion and ( tips)
I have since then, narrowed down my reserch on a cyclocross bike.

Why? I wanted my bike to be able to do
- light touring, and have a little bit more realed geometry
- I still wanted my bike to give me a *fast* feel.
- to be able to ride on dirt road if needs be and still be easy to carry around
- but still didnt want a mountain bike.
so thanks to all
I am currently looking mostly at
- Jamis
- CaadX
- Specialized tricross
- Mottobecane from BD
- Felt 75X

from my understanding is that, under my price range of ( around 1k )
i should be able to have a decent frame tiagra component or something similar a carbon fork and decent component.
so I really really thanks everyone for advice
i'm going to create a post on the cyclocross forum for more advice, but will still read this post every other day
happy holidays to everyone !!
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Somebody in the under $700 Roadbike thread posted that they had ordered one of these:

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...s_xii_sram.htm
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Originally Posted by LouisD View Post
1 - is it ok to ride your main expensive road bike in the rain .. is it common practice ?*
Absolutely although you'll need to lubricate the chain more frequently when you do that.
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Originally Posted by seymour1910 View Post
Litespeed M1 Carbon with 105 for $1225 shipped (yes they ship to Canada)

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_1688wt_896
+1 I like the litespeed above best.

I also like the BD option, not sure about shipping to canada.

STEEL>
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...remio_xiii.htm

ALUM>
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...us_al_xiii.htm

ALUM/CARBON>
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...sprint_xii.htm

CARBON>
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...sprint_xiv.htm
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I ride a 2011 Litespeed M1 and I love it, but it's a carbon road bike, and would not take kindly to a rack of any type. For what the OP wants, I'd look for a Steel Jamis road bike. It's possible that a NOS Quest could be found around the $1200 mark. That's a sweet ride.
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I vote for Surly also,LHT
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A while back, I was looking for something similar: a fairly nimble road bike, not necessarily a racer, with mount points for fenders and a rack. Two I really liked were the Kona Hnky Tonk and the Bianchi Volpe. There are a number of cyclocross-type bikes that would also fit the bill.

I wound up getting neither, though, since I stumbled across a new Diamondback Steilacoom CCX for a little over $300. The Diamondback's not as nice, but it fit the bill and it was hard to argue with the price.
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